(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[7.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[North American Ing Masters Round 5 Board 1 - Mingjiu Jiang (7p) vs Andyy Liu (7d)]PW[Mingjiu Jiang]PB[Andy Liu]WR[7p]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-07]EV[North American Ing Masters]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dave Weimer]C[USGO1 [-\]: game to start in 15 minutes
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu Jiang (7p) vs Andy Liu (7d)
MssrBlanc [3k\]: 15 minutes? Is that 6:30 EST?
USGO1 [-\]: yes
iTengen [3k\]: nice
jungledrum [21k\]: pwnagr
iwant6pack [5d\]: is there a video live?
xedover [5k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
am481 [21k?\]: this is gonna be fun
weirdchess [5k\]: go andy!
shipwreck [?\]: go mingjiu!
xDragon [15k\]: go jigo!
Levvo [6k\]: XD
erkkierkki [7k\]: :D
purpnoL [11k\]: lol
]RE[B+5.00]
;B[dp]
;W[pq]C[Levvo [6k\]: =)
erkkierkki [7k\]: usgo1 going black favored play :)
Novalys [2k\]: bbw vs mingjiu, that's gonna rock
Nyanjilla [-\]: top right corner for first move!
]
;B[pc]C[rikiyu [1k\]: where can I see results from this tournament?
xedover [5k?\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
]
;W[cd]
;B[qo]C[Kuros [8k\]: was this the game to be commented by takemiya?
norg [3k\]: This looks unfortunately similar to the opening Andy lost earlier...
rikiyu [1k\]: thanks
MrShintou [5d\]: this is the final :)
Hometet [9k\]: andy lyu will win
Levvo [6k\]: What's the komi?
jSd [8k\]: bo1
jSd [8k\]: or bo3?
DanielFox [1k\]: goooo andy 
nhanh [1d\]: who is top of the tour?
]
;W[pk]C[Hometet [9k\]: what happens whit feng yun?
Novalys [2k\]: not so sure hometet, mingjiu is so good at opening he could have an easier game, as for the mid game, i have no idea
Hometet [9k\]: is feng yun out of tournament? :\]
Novalys [2k\]: easier situation seems more correct 
xedover [5k?\]: Feng Yun lost to Andy last night, so she's on board 2 tonight
Hellhuman [4k\]: b is bbw, isnt it?
Hometet [9k\]: welldone..
Novalys [2k\]: yes hellhuman
Levvo [6k\]: Yes bbw = Andy Liu
nhanh [1d\]: andy should become pro
DrH0use [2d\]: andy won mast game?
DrH0use [2d\]: last*
xedover [5k?\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
robertm [1d\]: after a week people are still asking about bbw?
cjumper [9k\]: he won against 9p in this tourney? oO
DanielFox [1k\]: andy beating pros right and left
xDragon [15k\]: bbw beat feng yun 9p, as white, by 11 points
Hometet [9k\]: wow bbw so is awesome 
DrH0use [2d\]: oh i thought it was the opposite
cjumper [9k\]: wow real final
henhen [7k\]: whos bbw?
Schmidtt [13k\]: how old is andy?
YeknomGib [4k\]: black
Kounkychan [3k\]: jianmf
Kounkychan [3k\]: jiang
Levvo [6k\]: Andy Liu~    18 years old I believe.
iwant6pack [5d\]: 18
Schmidtt [13k\]: k
KlerChazal [-\]: These two again :)
]
;B[op]C[YeknomGib [4k\]: again?
KlerChazal [-\]: Mixing - late
Hometet [9k\]: why is 7d but bbw is 9d...
BenjaminGl [12k?\]: Is the guy on the computer the guy clicking on here?
iTengen [3k\]: aga rank and kgs rank
YeknomGib [4k\]: different ranking systems
xedover [5k?\]: aga rank
robertm [1d\]: why the same questions day after day?
nhanh [1d\]: has b any chances to win the tournament?
Hometet [9k\]: alot
KlerChazal [-\]: 7d rank is highest amateur rank
TheMagic [3k\]: lol, of course
raifu [3k\]: this is as close as u can get...
TheMagic [3k\]: andy liu is a monster
MoussDiouf [11k\]: 8ds is pro all the time ?
xedover [5k?\]: if he wins this game, he wins the tournament
nhanh [1d\]: but he lost one game today
henhen [7k\]: heyyy
Timshel [1d\]: against who
henhen [7k\]: i said hiii
xedover [5k?\]: different tournament, nhanh
nhanh [1d\]: against kim
nhanh [1d\]: oh
nhanh [1d\]: ;-)
nhanh [1d\]: missed it
henhen [7k\]: yeah w'sup
xedover [5k?\]: keep up
KlerChazal [-\]: 8d would be 8p. There are although few exeptions.
]
;W[oq]C[robertm [1d\]: how did the ManyFaces game go?
rvrey [7k\]: it is the 5eme party ??? andy lose the last one ?
]
;B[np]C[henhen [7k\]: blahhhhh
nhanh [1d\]: what's the award here?
henhen [7k\]: blahhhhh
MrShintou [5d\]: n3 r12 
]
;W[mq]
;B[qi]C[TheMagic [3k\]: pro destroyed manyfaces
xDragon [15k\]: $10 walmart giftcard
]
;W[qp]
;B[rp]C[dsaun [2d\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
Tetriste [17k\]: AndyLiu hits the goban with strength XD
]
;W[rq]
;B[pp]C[DokdoKorea [2k\]: no 1$ discount coupon from safeway
]
;W[qq]C[Tetriste [17k\]: oh wait
Tetriste [17k\]: that's Mingjiu sry
norg [3k\]: Ce'st le cinquieme parti, et Andy es Gagne le quatrieme parti. I can do french :P
]
;B[pn]C[baaka [13k\]: lol@dokdo
Thorvald [7k\]: c'est presque ça :p
nhanh [1d\]: who is andy's teacher?
Levvo [6k\]: Dun think he has one?
Hometet [9k\]: he is auto teacher
Hometet [9k\]: /;d
Uberdude [5d?\]: andy's teacher is the goban
rvrey [7k\]: ben je comprends plus la ^^? je l'ai vu perdre cet apres midi ???
Timshel [1d\]: i heard somewhere that jie li taught him
Timshel [1d\]: dunno if thats tru
]
;W[oi]C[MrShintou [5d\]: shabbat is starting, guess i'll have to watch tomorrow
lemming [-\]: is this joseki? it's just that I don't know it at all :)
Timshel [1d\]: whats shabbat
JRamiro [5k\]: aka Sabbath
MrShintou [5d\]: :D its a fun way to live a friday / saturday
MrShintou [5d\]: see you
LugPaj [2d\]: what crappy table.
Genghis [1k\]: Mingjiu doesn't know how to not play joseki lemming
]
;B[qf]C[PowerTower [1d\]: it's cool to watch this with two screens
timloupuce [5k\]: rvey il a perdu cet aprem dans l'autre tournoi !
nhanh [1d\]: oh this is the game of the two best players
lemming [-\]: well how does he win then?
nhanh [1d\]: what a showdown
Kuros [8k\]: what, you can't even watch a go game on the sabbath?
timloupuce [5k\]: d'ailleurs ca seul défaite de la semaine!!!!
jemwest [12k\]: there are a lot of things you can't do on the sabbath
jemwest [12k\]: ^^
Timshel [1d\]: atheism ftw
jemwest [12k\]: religious kibitz, now that's scary
Kuros [8k\]: no but i mean, it's like one of the most passive things you can do
Kuros [8k\]: oh well
Uberdude [5d?\]: r14 shape is thin
DokdoKorea [2k\]: i think we should create tournament of :: who break goban in one strike with stone?
PowerTower [1d\]: what is religion good for?
nhanh [1d\]: still best move there
Uberdude [5d?\]: control
valar [23k\]: admin???
]
;W[ec]C[Genghis [1k\]: Where are the aji points Uber?
nogars: noobs :)
Timshel [1d\]: l3?
Timshel [1d\]: breaks ladder for cut at p10
Opul3nce [8k?\]: has this tournement been on every day for the last x days?
SunnyD [2d\]: Is this child abuse, B played 4 hours earlier
articienta [-\]: enough religion, please.
Uberdude [5d?\]: r12  r13 r15 etc
maniprad [14k\]: to know how you were created and why...
]
;B[lo]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: lol
PowerTower [1d\]: the germans always cry for an admin
GeorgeW [-\]: SunnyD so did White
baaka [13k\]: the word 'kibitz' comes from jewish dialect
norg [3k\]: Isn't k17 bigger?
Uberdude [5d?\]: this aims p10 ?
Timshel [1d\]: yea
Novalys [2k\]: Q9 is a pincer still, if w gets n4 he could pressure the group
Levvo [6k\]: Is Takemiya commenting this somewhere?
GeorgeW [-\]: Probably if White answers then Black plays O9
Hometet [9k\]: what takemiya is wathing/?
]
;W[qh]C[Kounkychan [3k\]: yeah heard that to
sweety [-\]: Takemiya sensi's commentary will start at 7:30pm EST
Kounkychan [3k\]: some one link ?
Timshel [1d\]: nice move
Kounkychan [3k\]: oki
PowerTower [1d\]: r12 strong
lemming [-\]: I wonder how they can sit so straight.
Lebron [?\]: is there television here?
Bruno [1d\]: why nice move?
rvrey [7k\]: c quek tournoi celui la ^^mdr
]
;B[ph]
;W[pi]C[cbus [15k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
pasn [4k\]: and now, what time is it?
]
;B[rh]C[rvrey [7k\]: et cet am c'etait quoi ?
Timshel [1d\]: prevents cut in sente
]
;W[qj]C[Tetriste [17k\]: will the commentaries be made in another room?
]
;B[qg]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: there's the r12
Novalys [2k\]: s11
Uberdude [5d?\]: w gets nice shape
]
;W[lq]C[Levvo [6k\]: Donno
Uberdude [5d?\]: in sente
PowerTower [1d\]: black seems overconcentrated
norg [3k\]: ponuki is worth 30 points
Bruno [1d\]: is a dead stone in sente
Bruno [1d\]: hm
ZeroCool [3k\]: solved both problems
ketchup [2k\]: tetriste, yes i think takemiya is commenting this finals?
Levvo [6k\]: USG01, is there any comments on this game?
eurogotv [-\]: hi^^
dxxd [-\]: r14 nicely placed :)
SunnyD [2d\]: what is B drinking?
ketchup [2k\]: but it usually starts latet
Novalys [2k\]: norg this is not a ponnuki in the center ^^
ketchup [2k\]: later*
Uberdude [5d?\]: that ponnuyki is note 30 points
GOlooser [9k\]: what is ponuki??
Timshel [1d\]: c11 
DokdoKorea [2k\]: vodka
ketchup [2k\]: eurogotv, you are up late!
ketchup [2k\]: or really early, whichever works~
USGO1 [-\]: Comments at 7:30 est
PowerTower [1d\]: white is so cool
eurogotv [-\]: dont want to mis this
Levvo [6k\]: thank you
PowerTower [1d\]: play steady
SunnyD [2d\]: they are playing fast
Cafecho [2k?\]: gtm ? 
lemming [-\]: how late is not now over there?
waytowin [8d?\]: n11
Opul3nce [8k?\]: obviously b is drinking nice clear refreshing drinks, and not that toxic juice in here
Fiara [5k\]: ...
SunnyD [2d\]: O_o
Fiara [5k\]: Definitely vodka
Timshel [1d\]: helps concentration
ketchup [2k\]: <gmt>2009-08-07 23:30</gmt>
sanrensei [7k\]: what is good for b now?
nhanh [1d\]: do you have the us link for live broadcast?
ketchup [2k\]: that should be when the comments by pro starts
Exar [1d\]: c10 seems big for both
Moop [21k\]: Watch the players here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
nhanh [1d\]: thnx
Opul3nce [8k?\]: FACT...i get better at darts the more alco i drink
Moop [21k\]: np
DokdoKorea [2k\]: go+vodka=winner
sanrensei [7k\]: c10 looks ok yes
baned4life: Takemiya Masaki is still going to do commentary?
Solid30k [2k\]: isint m3 slow?
nocheat [4d\]: point wise w is doing great
SunnyD [2d\]: they have the nice set for the top board today
Moop [21k\]: People just think they do better the drunker they get, and no one bothers to argue
Karcusrd [7k\]: ah better stones and bowl now
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;B[mj]C[Opul3nce [8k?\]: dutch courage
USGO4 [-\]: A video stream of the top board is available here: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
lemming [-\]: ok so comments in about half an hour then
Bruno [1d\]: strange move
DrH0use [2d\]: no
lemming [-\]: ah no, 1:30
lemming [-\]: :)
Bruno [1d\]: maybe he just droped it by the way
ketchup [2k\]: right now it's 34 minutes?
donGoku [5k\]: waytowin said n11
SunnyD [2d\]: N10 = Fear me pro
Levvo [6k\]: I think it's in 34 minutes yes.
Fiara [5k\]: Moop, you just don't want to admit you lost to a drunk dan is that it? :D
Levvo [6k\]: 18:57 in USA now ~
ketchup [2k\]: lemming , 30ish minutes from now yes
DrH0use [2d\]: waytowin?
YusufS [2k\]: yeah 34 minutes until Takemiya comments on the game
goplayer0 [8k\]: what's the difference between 7p and 7d??
waytowin [8d?\]: y)
PowerTower [1d\]: black runs away from the seat
nhanh [1d\]: n10 active
Schmidtt [13k\]: xD
waytowin [8d?\]: n10 better))
PowerTower [1d\]: he is back
Uberdude [5d?\]: s11 
Cafecho [2k?\]: cool move
lukasz [5k\]: did Liu win yesterday?
rvrey [7k\]: p pro    d amateur
Midorya [4d?\]: no difference
SunnyD [2d\]: N10 is better than which move, waytowin?
kingsplace [2k\]: yes, liu beat feng yun
DrH0use [2d\]: n11
nhanh [1d\]: p plays for money, d plays for fun
]
;W[ri]C[sanrensei [7k\]: how many handicaps should there be between a 7p and 7d?
Hellhuman [4k\]: non
nhanh [1d\]: none as you can see
Hellhuman [4k\]: or max 2
sanrensei [7k\]: really?
valar [23k\]: hah hah again..
mungo [?\]: Not this convo again...
UFGS [3d\]: If Andy wins the game, Andy is the strongest in US?
PowerTower [1d\]: admin...
YusufS [2k\]: liu beat feng yun!?!?! can someone point my to the game record? 
nhanh [1d\]: come on andy, show him
Uberdude [5d?\]: how many pears are there between 5 apples and 10 oranges?
Timshel [1d\]: check in usgo1 i think
Levvo [6k\]: anyone knows how much komi there is?
Fenix [2d\]: c10?
xedover [5k?\]: Ing rules... komi 8
Hellhuman [4k\]:  7 komi
Larrave [3k\]: jesusXD
DrH0use [2d\]: five uber
Hellhuman [4k\]: says rules
Levvo [6k\]: thanks
Bruno [1d\]: R 8
sanrensei [7k\]: rules say komi is 7
Larrave [3k\]: bigbadwolf is not a beautiful woman?;P
Timshel [1d\]: 8 but b wins tie rite?
sanrensei [7k\]: why not 6.5?
Timshel [1d\]: so its 7.5
sanrensei [7k\]: there can be a tie?
Hellhuman [4k\]: cause jigo 
Warfreak2 [5d\]: uberdude, there are (15 choose 2) pairs.
Bruno [1d\]: no becouse there is komi newbie
dsaun [2d\]: under Ing rules, tie goes to black, if i recall
xedover [5k?\]: kgs doesn't support Ing... official touney rules are 8 komi
USGO1 [-\]: komi is 8 but black wins ties, so 7.5
cuby [2k\]: lol then just call it 7.5
waytowin [8d?\]: c11 i like
sanrensei [7k\]: lol
Timshel [1d\]: d10 
SunnyD [2d\]: I like to think of it as 7.14159265
baned4life: well there is a pass stone though
valar [23k\]: that would be 7
nhanh [1d\]: c11 nice moyo;-)
baned4life: aga is the same as chinese counting
Timshel [1d\]: looks better with n10
zampa [5k\]: sunny, you have it all mixed up with pi :)
USGO1 [-\]: Ing counting so implemented by putting four stones on board with Chinese-type counting
xedover [5k?\]: because Ing uses fill-in counting, place 4 white stones in black's territory (thus 8 point komi)
Bruno [1d\]: R 8 to prevent w settle and then fight the ko ...uh
nhanh [1d\]: b tenuki here?
Fenix [2d\]: 7 komi, but if w leads by less than 2, black wins!!1 ing rulez!
Cafecho [2k?\]: e15 good ?
ketchup [2k\]: b to play k17 first
ketchup [2k\]: or l17
cuby [2k\]: why make rules so incredibly complicated?
xedover [5k?\]: no pass stones in Ing rules (pass stones are used in aga rules)
cuby [2k\]: way to scare people away from the game
icecream [?\]: N12?
iTengen [3k\]: chinese rules are superior
PowerTower [1d\]: prefer O12
FinalF [3k\]: How can they just sit there for so long???
Bruno [1d\]: why do u answer your own questions?
Tetriste [17k\]: tenuki seems better to me, big points are elsewhere so early I believe
norg [3k\]: Now is definitely the time for a ko
xedover [5k?\]: Mr Ing tried to make simplified, scientific rules
PowerTower [1d\]: one learns to sit straight in a monastary
cuby [2k\]: O12?
sanrensei [7k\]: ko ko ko
ketchup [2k\]: ko feels too early
Schmidtt [13k\]: cough cough
ketchup [2k\]: to play it just because it's there
Fenix [2d\]: is w pro?
ketchup [2k\]: yes
Fenix [2d\]: wait
Timshel [1d\]: takemiya would say  d10
Bruno [1d\]: r 8 is the answer belive me
Levvo [6k\]: I think andy is reading the whole board out ^^ ..
Tetriste [17k\]: what aare the stakes of the game?
siulongbao [6k\]: is black pro
ninam [12k\]: no
siulongbao [6k\]: and can someone link me his player card ?
ketchup [2k\]: first place in NAIM
ColdFront [4k\]: WOOT!  Go black, I am your #1 fan!
valar [23k\]: haha
ketchup [2k\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
nhanh [1d\]: is this tournament just about honor and fame? or money, too?
ketchup [2k\]: this is the results so far
JohnyBravo [3k?\]: the winner of this tournament gets a new car and a record deal
Tetriste [17k\]: big tournaments include prices to win
Levvo [6k\]: thanks for that ketchup ^^ 
baned4life: n10 seems unreasonable
GoBBW: black is counting the endgame
Fenix [2d\]: did someone adress him with "bigbadwolf" during the tourney? :-p
Levvo [6k\]: This guy really has fans doesn't he O.o
nhanh [1d\]: so what is the price?
weirdchess [5k\]: go andy!
aware [1d\]: did andy win earlier today? .. fell asleep during the game :)
nhanh [1d\]: haha
GoBBW: his opponent won earlier
ketchup [2k\]: aware i dont think so
ketchup [2k\]: myungwan did
baned4life: he lost
nhanh [1d\]: i got headache from the game
ketchup [2k\]: close game near end, but myungwan was ahead
aware [1d\]: ok...thx ketch
Yazu [4d\]: hello
Enigmatic [4k\]: pi + 4? ^^
Levvo [6k\]: Go Mingjiu Jiang! =D ... You can kill the silly amateur! >:D 
ketchup [2k\]: so andy resigned
Bruno [1d\]: white + resign...that ko is too scary
jannis [5k\]: what earlier game?
zampa [5k\]: who were reviewing this game later?
ketchup [2k\]: takemiya
ketchup [2k\]: will be
nhanh [1d\]: amateurs rule
mperahia [3k\]: is w 5 or 7p?
]
;B[mh]C[ketchup [2k\]: around 26 minutes from now
sanrensei [7k\]: which side do you prefer, b or w?
cuby [2k\]: ah i was close! :D
]
;W[oh]C[nhanh [1d\]: wow
]
;B[rj]C[weirdchess [5k\]: w 7p
ketchup [2k\]: 7p it says above mperahia
]
;W[qh]
;B[nq]
;W[nr]
;B[qi]C[sanrensei [7k\]: ko!
nocheat [4d\]: now N10 became a great move?
nhanh [1d\]: nice for b
dearmom [3k\]: big ko
baned4life: not really
norg [3k\]: I was joking when I said ko...
calm [5k\]: When will the next round of US open take place?
nhanh [1d\]: b so good
dearmom [3k\]: w can't afford losing this ko
xedover [5k?\]: tomorrow morning, calm
ketchup [2k\]: tomorrow at 9am like always?
mperahia [3k\]: what a stupid question, sorry
nhanh [1d\]: does he teach?
ketchup [2k\]: there are no more break days
manyEyes [?\]: who is Andy's teacher?
eurogotv [-\]: i would not be able to make any move if i knew Takemiya would analyse my game
valar [23k\]: w in trouble? (serious question)
Iplay4u [9k?\]: live link?
ketchup [2k\]: eurogotv haha
KikiDuk: where is the wall list for USGO?
Moop [21k\]: t4 could threaten black enough
Moop [21k\]: Watch the players: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest Find the game records: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
nhanh [1d\]: t11
baned4life: you people will cry when your hero is destroyed by his own greed
ketchup [2k\]: i believe the "official" site is this: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Moop [21k\]: yeah, but you have to join/login
Iplay4u [9k?\]: thx
iTengen [3k\]: mingjiu doesn't afraid of takemiya
zodte [8k?\]: this is second game of them?
iTengen [3k\]: i'm pretty confident
Kuros [8k\]: he has probably owned him a few times
Schmidtt [13k\]: bbw is confident
Timshel [1d\]: is takemiya stil playing in pro tourneys?
ketchup [2k\]: yes
SunnyD [2d\]: top prize?
iwant6pack [5d\]: 1500$
nhanh [1d\]: those guys can stare very long at one point
ketchup [2k\]: right before congress started actually
sanrensei [7k\]: can b afford to lose the ko?
TheMagic [3k\]: yes takemiya still plays
nhanh [1d\]: w cannot
nocheat [4d\]: this becomes complcaited
sanrensei [7k\]: so ko is more important to w than b i think
Larrave [3k\]: guess so=)
Gnou [10k\]: Takemiya went to final for NHK cup, defeated by Yuki Satoshi -9p this year
]
;W[mk]C[Cool007 [2k\]: 7 d like to make things complcated
Tetriste [17k\]: w needs the ko? I didn't see it that way
InExtremis [2d?\]: does b have a 2nd ko threat?
weirdchess [5k\]: n2/p2
seto999: Ko?
nhanh [1d\]: m9 a must
]
;B[si]C[nhanh [1d\]: ;-)
]
;W[nj]
;B[lj]
;W[lk]C[baaka [13k\]: a surprise
seto999: wats 7p stand for
Larrave [3k\]: in reverse alphatebic value you could say d>p
ketchup [2k\]: c10 ~
Larrave [3k\]: ;P
valar [23k\]: xD
Oleg2711 [1k\]: almost, ;-))
mperahia [3k\]: this is going to be a great game
Uberdude [5d?\]: 7 potatoes
]
;B[kk]C[calm [5k\]: The question is not which side wins the ko but how much does the winning side have to give up.
PowerTower [1d\]: wow - black has two ponukis already
Timshel [1d\]: looks bad for b
Tetriste [17k\]: what's go?
Hometet [9k\]: cut?
Uberdude [5d?\]: w got good shape
IGoofy [1d\]: q10 is the zerg base
ketchup [2k\]: timshel, this makes me think black is ahead though
siulongbao [6k\]: black has a small group
siulongbao [6k\]: and is slowly making a war
Rutilante [17k?\]: can they read what we are writing?
kitsune [2k\]: zerg base?
ketchup [2k\]: only one real weak group and white is feeling pressure
Tetriste [17k\]: no
oreh [15k\]: nn starcraft here
nhanh [1d\]: sure
ketchup [2k\]: rutilante, no
Tetriste [17k\]: they are playing on live boards
sanrensei [7k\]: b won and also b has better position?
seto999: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
Hometet [9k\]: ?
ColdFront [4k\]: The boards are live?  Is that humans?
nhanh [1d\]: they only play to read our kibitz
ColdFront [4k\]: *humane
Kounkychan [3k\]: åäö
KikiDuk: w ready to resign
Tetriste [17k\]: I didn't say living boards...
lloyd [1d\]: they are playing with real board and stones --- recorder is putting moves into computer -- not players
Levvo [6k\]:                                                                         Live Streaming: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US                                                                                                                                                         ING Rankings: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
Bruno [1d\]: black look better to me
siulongbao [6k\]: how much do they win if the win the tournament
Brunswiek [9k\]: white c16 very powerful. black should resign now.
valar [23k\]: cold learn english
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: M10 group floating
brbl [23k?\]: where can i see the tournament results?
Kuros [8k\]: yeah it's floating, time to resign
sanrensei [7k\]: L10 cut good?
Levvo [6k\]: ops
shishinn [?\]: where is the video link (w/o registration)?
Rocker [4d\]: hola bruno how is ur junior doing?
nhanh [1d\]: no
Moop [21k\]: I want to make a goban that automatically updates KGS/other servers... It could also be attacked to the timer and update the time so we could see it
Bruno [1d\]: Hi Rocker
Tetriste [17k\]: you need registration
rvrey [7k\]: mingjiu seems preocupated
Tetriste [17k\]: but it's fast and free
Rocker [4d\]: hehehe
ColdFront [4k\]: Valar: My English is awesome, and I would perfer if you did not flaucinaucinihilipilificate it!
Moop [21k\]: Watch the players: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest               Find the game records: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
oreh [15k\]: u can use test///test
oreh [15k\]: without reg
Bruno [1d\]: he is very good...8 months already
Rocker [4d\]: :)
IamLucifer [1d\]: hey, people, wehere are full results of US open?
Moop [21k\]: remove the 62
IamLucifer [1d\]: hi Rocky :)
Moop [21k\]: from the end of game records link
xedover [5k?\]: US Open results: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
Rocker [4d\]: hello luci
valar [23k\]: ah ok so you was just trolling ok
tywin [2d\]: Two c's in the first part of that word, aren't there, ColdFront? Flaucci-(etc.)
valar [23k\]: were
Tetriste [17k\]: black is winning influence...
ColdFront [4k\]: I hope the 7p wins, he is the awesome
KikiDuk: w seems hopeless already
USGO10 [-\]: follow @gocongress on twitter
ColdFront [4k\]: It is on twitter?
ColdFront [4k\]: That is crazy
aware [1d\]: ama vs pro= always root for the amateur!
SunnyD [2d\]: N17!
sanrensei [7k\]: maybe m3 was slow because w was planning the ko
Rocker [4d\]: l11 is the next move
Schmidtt [13k\]: watch out USGO1, USGO10 is stepping on your turf
Rocker [4d\]: l10*
Rocker [4d\]: cut
ColdFront [4k\]: USGO turf wars would make the games very interesting
icecream [?\]: L10 overplay
oreh [15k\]: reason ?
manyEyes [?\]: their chair seems uncomfortable
calm [5k\]: Hey USGO1 why don't you wave to the camera.
ketchup [2k\]: agree
oreh [15k\]: they are just a bit nervous, imo
ketchup [2k\]: manyeyes, those chairs are weird
SunnyD [2d\]: 7p is distracted by little kids
wintogo [7d\]: black is better?
sanrensei [7k\]: se says b+ 109 lol
icecream [?\]: I like B :)
LugPaj [2d\]: http://funnyvideos.todaysbigthing.com/2009/08/05
KikiDuk: b better than 9p, wow
Kounkychan [3k\]: i used to bring my own chair
oreh [15k\]: that chairs aren't comfortable cuz at other way they will sleep at them
Moop [21k\]: White's gotta be losing some time here, let's hope it pays off later
Orc [4d\]: blk looks better for me
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: how is w going to make 2 eyes?
ZeroCool [3k\]: if he controlls the center, why should he be worse than w?
Rocker [4d\]: trustme l10 will come
Karcusrd [7k\]: need more cuchion
oreh [15k\]: nostradamus?
SunnyD [2d\]: D10 or N17
manyEyes [?\]: Mingjiu even does not have a watter bottle!
kryft [1k?\]: mm, popcorn
PowerTower [1d\]: now, the pro reads it all out
Timshel [1d\]: l10 looks like the only move
us1dan [2d\]: w has to do L-8 anyway.
wintogo [7d\]: black won the ko
Tetriste [17k\]: the estimation is often wrong early in game ^^
Frank [3k\]: w not in bad situation aas long as m10 cut from r13
PowerTower [1d\]: after 20 moves or so, there will be a very devastating ko and the game is over
Hometet [9k\]: l8 can stop m5..
zampa [5k\]: i wonder how much time jiang has left now. :>
Karcusrd [7k\]: lol the goban a little bit thicker and new bowls
]
;W[kl]C[us1dan [2d\]: sure,\\
]
;B[ll]C[Larrave [3k\]: wow
us1dan [2d\]: o-8
]
;W[lm]C[wintogo [7d\]: you can estimate any time
Larrave [3k\]: fast reaction
ZeroCool [3k\]: fight!
us1dan [2d\]: ?
Tetriste [17k\]: that's weird
ColdFront [4k\]: TIme for some bloos
ColdFront [4k\]: *blood
us1dan [2d\]: pro-7 calculation!
]
;B[ml]
;W[nk]C[Hometet [9k\]: time for fun spects
SunnyD [2d\]: M8 was before W put down L8??? then B lost for double moves
Kuros [8k\]: why do people always scratch their heads after they were about to put down a stone but decided not to
us1dan [2d\]: i thought after b m-8
PowerTower [1d\]: some black stones will fade away
Ryoji [1k\]: k9 
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: k8 
Kuros [8k\]: everyone does it :)
Stones123 [4k\]: k8 
ColdFront [4k\]: He used the double move tesuji O.o  Very high level stuff
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: k8 l7 k9 
us1dan [2d\]: w o-8
]
;B[mm]C[DanielFox [1k\]: brain itches
]
;W[kj]
;B[jk]
;W[mi]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: they both have a slight habbit of wanting to hand hover for thier moves
]
;B[li]
;W[lh]
;B[ki]C[Ryoji [1k\]: lol
Tetriste [17k\]: white will win influence in this fight now I think
]
;W[mg]
;B[ni]
;W[nh]
;B[mi]C[cucurucucu [5d\]: white? lol
us1dan [2d\]: this way b already gain on left!
Kuros [8k\]: it's like they found it kind of awkward to abort at the last second so they scratch their heads to give the imression that the hand just made a detour on the way to their hair
Moop [21k\]: Haha, good luck keepin up usgo1
Hometet [9k\]: cool
sanrensei [7k\]: b got better!
Moop [21k\]: when they get all crazy like that
us1dan [2d\]: b leads
eurogotv [-\]: Moop read your pm's
cucurucucu [5d\]: lol kuros
ws [3d\]: bad fight for w
SunnyD [2d\]: time for the juice to go, I'll be back!!!
cucurucucu [5d\]: you ask question and you give the answer
us1dan [2d\]: w m-7 is kgs 7 dan move? :)
]
;W[nf]C[IGoofy [1d\]: old man shouldnt play so complicated variations
]
;B[kh]C[us1dan [2d\]: b should have won.
]
;W[kf]C[calm [5k\]: Oh B slams his stone
oreh [15k\]: k7?
norg [3k\]: w has made k17 less favourable for b
dark [2d\]:  isthere a stream ?
Tetriste [17k\]: I dunno, white still have aji on left side and seem to get the top
igitur [4d\]: white evened the table
us1dan [2d\]: e-16 now?
sanrensei [7k\]: so now left side
Eldar [3d\]: it was a nice escape
Karcusrd [7k\]: lol they have chair blockade up
Eldar [3d\]: I still like B here a lot
calm [5k\]: What does a 17k know about aji?
Timshel [1d\]: tetriste i dont wanna be mean, but ur 17k
us1dan [2d\]: GG
HikaShin [-\]: they're playing again? O_o
Tetriste [17k\]: Then block me Timshel
norg [3k\]: calm has etiquette firmly pinned down :)
Hometet [9k\]: lol
PowerTower [1d\]: both stood up and went away
mungo [?\]: very nice escaape...I would have died easily :)
Tetriste [17k\]: Cause your comment won't stop mine
Timshel [1d\]: ?
DanielFox [1k\]: if i were pro i'd have a 17k account just so people could make fun of my comments 
calm [5k\]: White does not have aji on left because there is nothing on the left period.
Hometet [9k\]: he have aji from left
Hometet [9k\]: that was lol
Hometet [9k\]: /;d
us1dan [2d\]: i like b do f-16
dark [2d\]: do they have a stream showign the players?
donGoku [5k\]: d14
Eldar [3d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Stones123 [4k\]: f17 
ZeroCool [3k\]: now i really look forward to see Takemiya commenting this game. 
us1dan [2d\]: i like f-16 better
dsaun [2d\]: for dark:  live stream (with no registration requirement): http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
al1 [1k\]: speaking of W aji on left side is not pro comment for sure ^^
Needo [11k\]: P13?
Moop [21k\]: the registration is fast
Timshel [1d\]: did they just switch recorders?
donGoku [5k\]: x5?
us1dan [2d\]: just guess
Moop [21k\]: seriously took me 1 minute max
Moop [21k\]: haha
us1dan [2d\]: f-16
chipper [-\]: Looks like it yes, timshel
Moop [21k\]: Watch the game: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US ; View the game records: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
Hometet [9k\]: wat p13 do
Hometet [9k\]: ?
baned4life: some 5 dans play worst than 17k
chong [4k\]: k4?
us1dan [2d\]: or n-15
mint [4d\]: oh
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu is returning to the board
us1dan [2d\]: if fierce, n-15
mint [4d\]: is that you Andrew?
Schmidtt [13k\]: I bet usgo10 won the turf war
oreh [15k\]: thx USGO
valar [23k\]: baned you take too much time your kibitz must be faster
trebleclef [2k\]: time from both player please usgo1
oreh [15k\]: he returned with beer?
mint [4d\]: who's that weird black kid in the background?
Karcusrd [7k\]: lol
dark [2d\]: waves to usgo* 
us1dan [2d\]: zhou yan is not in bad shape with feng yun either
Timshel [1d\]: pro from africa
KikiDuk: mint no racist remarks please
]
;B[hh]C[oreh [15k\]: it's 8p from Africa
us1dan [2d\]: oop
us1dan [2d\]: good move
igitur [4d\]: too fancy
Moop [21k\]: black's got a nice dumpling at l12... makes me hungry
Tetriste [17k\]: yup
Karcusrd [7k\]: if hes there probaly
us1dan [2d\]: to prevent escape of l-10
golgo13 [12k\]: africa has an 8p????
Yazu [4d\]: hello
quasimoyo [1d\]: ...
donGoku [5k\]: who said h12?^^
valar [23k\]: ...
Yazu [4d\]: go andy
Yazu [4d\]: yay
Yazu [4d\]: !!!!
Hometet [9k\]: valar sayd h12
XY0908 [-\]: Please let's stick to the game comments.
ColdFront [4k\]: Who is Africa's 8p?
InExtremis [2d?\]: k4 pretty big?
Uberdude [5d?\]: p17 
valar [23k\]: ?
ColdFront [4k\]: Is Go big in Africa?
Karcusrd [7k\]: kid wants to jump the chair barier
XY0908 [-\]: I really don't want to censor so many of you...
calm [5k\]: Will takemiya's comments be streamed?
Larrave [3k\]: hehe
Larrave [3k\]: why is there a chairbarrier?
dsaun [2d\]: I apologize for linking to the non-registered stream, i am now told it is not welcome
Karcusrd [7k\]: cant you see it
Luminaire [3k\]: the pro commentary has not started yet, at least in the main playing room
Tetriste [17k\]: I wouldn'T consider Go as big in America, so I doubt Africa has it big neither
Moop [21k\]: Watch the game: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US ; View the game records: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
tywin [2d\]: Larrave, to give the players breathing room.
Schmidtt [13k\]: apology not accepted
Larrave [3k\]: but just for one board?=(
baned4life: well I think the pros wait so as not to be humiliated if their commentary is wrong
oreh [15k\]: sake at cups?
Luminaire [3k\]: no, different reasons
calm [5k\]: dsaun you sholuld have linked to bugmenot.
manyEyes [?\]: i think if b is not leading, then w is leading
IGoofy [1d\]: the fans will invent goban diving tonight
Larrave [3k\]: hehe
dsaun [2d\]: I truly did not know it wasn't ok, I won't paste it again
baned4life: maybe fuseki is to complicated to properly comment
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: i cant' tell which side is biggest at the moment
mimimi: can b be happy? no?
mint [4d\]: no
mint [4d\]: b is pretty :(
Larrave [3k\]: b has a pretty picture on kgs
KikiDuk: b geeky :)
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;W[od]C[ColdFront [4k\]: Good move
mint [4d\]: (b is looking better than w on the board)
tywin [2d\]: Close, Uberdude... so close.
norg [3k\]: I bet b wishes he'd played k17 earlier :P
Warfreak2 [5d\]: can't mingjiu see the screen from his seat?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: the laptop seems at a strange angle.
Tetriste [17k\]: it is lol this game is weird, it feels like white has a bad start, but I don't think it's gonna be that way
ketchup [2k\]: n15
Luminaire [3k\]: takemiya is now entering the main room
]
;B[oc]
;W[nc]C[ketchup [2k\]: then n17!
]
;B[nb]
;W[mc]
;B[mb]C[baned4life: yeah
Uberdude [5d?\]: hmm p16 is softer
oreh [15k\]: gogo USGO :)
Uberdude [5d?\]: i gues p17 was overplay
drewfrank [16k?\]: eurogotv sent me my new password in plain text.  bah!
kryft [1k?\]: Hmm, why P16 instead of o17?
ZeroCool [3k\]: from that angle, i don't think he can see anything clearly
Uberdude [5d?\]: but i like b getting terr here
manyEyes [?\]: b gained lot territory with these 3 moves, seems better than w?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: drew, how else are they supposed to send your password
Larrave [3k\]: takemiya would prefer black=)
ketchup [2k\]: no more bottled water?
Larrave [3k\]: or?
drewfrank [16k?\]: they're not.
bonsai [16k\]: time?
shika12 [-\]: lol
kryft [1k?\]: Would o17 have been too thin?
shika12 [-\]: it was fun waving at the camera
Warfreak2 [5d\]: so you get a new password and you don't know what it is?
shika12 [-\]: :D
norg [3k\]: Now all the hackers who want to hack your Eurogotv account will be unstoppable! D:
sanrensei [7k\]: left side looking big now
USGO10 [-\]: takemiya just entered the room
USGO10 [-\]: chris garlock is introducing him
Hometet [9k\]: :D
eurogotv [-\]: lol
cbus [15k\]: they shouldn't send you the one you have in plain text atleast, they should generate a new one and send :)
Warfreak2 [5d\]: he said they sent his *new* password in plaintext, not his old one
drewfrank [16k?\]: no, when you sign up you get a crazy random one.  then you change it to something else, which should never be transmitted in cleartext
calm [5k\]: Is takemiya going to be streamed?
Timshel [1d\]: can u point the camera at him for a few seconds ?
Timshel [1d\]: lol
eurogotv [-\]: i could encrypt them^^
aware [1d\]: is there a livestream from tekemia, too?
USGO10 [-\]: camera is upstairs
Hometet [9k\]: is takemya good?
drewfrank [16k?\]: you should store hashes on the server
shika12 [-\]: ...
Tetriste [17k\]: :P
shika12 [-\]: was that a trick question?
tsuchigumo [-\]: Takemiya is God
aware [1d\]: would be more interesting than the actual game:)
Tetriste [17k\]: better than you and me
DanielFox [1k\]: is Takemiya good lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: drew, you are complaining that they send you your *new* password in plaintext
tsuchigumo [-\]: 5 time Honinbo
shishinn [?\]: is b winning or is it balanced?
Jadeite [?\]: does he have body guards?
shika12 [-\]: he likes cute ladies and beer
shika12 [-\]: :)
cbus [15k\]: any decent hash algos now?
Moop [21k\]: Watch the game: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US ; View the game records: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
ketchup [2k\]: if white defends, does black take c11?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: how are you supposed to know your *new* password if you are sent the hash?
cbus [15k\]: SHA-1 isn't considered broken yet is it?
ws [3d\]: b leads
Moop [21k\]: Hey, USGO1, can we know the times?
xedover [5k?\]: let's focus on the game, please
kryft [1k?\]: cbus, Let's not discuss hashing algorithms here. :)
Sophos [4k\]: seems like Andy Liu is thinking hard :D
manyEyes [?\]: b has huge UR corner
drewfrank [16k?\]: agree, focus on game :) sorry to distract
Tetriste [17k\]: yeah you're only 16k!!!!
mint [4d\]: ...
Hometet [9k\]: ^^
Schmidtt [13k\]: usgo went to check times!
xDragon [15k\]: i beat both of you
Yazu [4d\]: hello
sanrensei [7k\]: b wins the game
USGO1 [-\]: b has 67 minutes; w has 57 minutes
Timshel [1d\]: thanks usgo
ws [3d\]: L8, M7 and L10 so badly placed
USGO10 [-\]: Check out my game for Takemiya's comments
cbus [15k\]: bbw is always so fast :)
USGO10 [-\]: starting now
Moop [21k\]: thank you
Warfreak2 [5d\]: do you want to rotate the laptop, so that mingjiu does not have to look at our inane kibbitz?
Timshel [1d\]: XD
Yazu [4d\]: GO ANDY!!!!! \\o/
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;W[lc]C[xedover [5k?\]: set you watches, so you won't have to ask again
]
;B[cj]C[Anubis53 [1k\]: b seems ok. Big corner and nice moyo
KikiDuk: hayai
lonsan [1k\]: it will be different people asking, of course, xedover
]
;W[fq]C[Long88 [2d\]: andy playing again in the same day?
norg [3k\]: It looks like it's going to be a game of large territories...
mint [4d\]: W has no thickness at all
manyEyes [?\]: c10 looks so good
lonsan [1k\]: b will win...mingjiu a bit past his prime, if not still a good teacher
]
;B[dq]C[Hometet [9k\]: i see that center completly invaded
Larrave [3k\]: d3 antimoyo!XD
Tetriste [17k\]: I don't see USGO10's room
]
;W[fo]C[norg [3k\]: f5
ColdFront [4k\]: ...
Pushupman [?\]: is there a live stream?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: do you people not even look at the AGA ratings?
mint [4d\]: d6
MssrBlanc [3k\]: Mingjiu unambiguously top 5 in US
Anubis53 [1k\]: mint you prefer w situation?
tywin [2d\]: No, we don't.
ketchup [2k\]: h3?
sanrensei [7k\]: c6
norg [3k\]: k4?
igitur [4d\]: w 100 percent in the game
mint [4d\]: who's Takemiya Masaki?
Hometet [9k\]: i dunno
Hometet [9k\]: some player..
lonsan [1k\]: i have seen too many pros review mingjiu's recent games and comment often "i don't understand this move, doesn't do anything" so i am confident in andy
xDragon [15k\]: hot dog vendor at go congress
Hometet [9k\]: i go watch him
caglar [4k\]: vaav
xDragon [15k\]: has good hot dogs, recommended
MssrBlanc [3k\]: mint, you need to work on your trolling...
ketchup [2k\]: i agree
mint [4d\]: :(
Anubis53 [1k\]: really good japanese go player
norg [3k\]: Maybe Mingjiu is just beyond understanding?
amego [3k\]: b is sitting pretty
MssrBlanc [3k\]: Pro commentary can be extremely harsh at this level
Long88 [2d\]: amego i am scare of this fanism
manyEyes [?\]: i found interstering pattern!
mint [4d\]: Takemiya is not the kind of person to be harsh with words
ketchup [2k\]: many eyes live?
sensemaker [4d\]: who won andy liu vs myungwan kim?
mint [4d\]: kim
lonsan [1k\]: kim
lonsan [1k\]: by resign
ketchup [2k\]: myungwan
MssrBlanc [3k\]: No, he was harsh in commenting on Feng Yun vs. Yilun Yang last year
eurogotv [-\]: FREE live TV broadcast of this game (without ads; no spam) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
manyEyes [?\]: when Andy lean forward, Mingjiu will lean back :)
sensemaker [4d\]: how do i go watch the game?
sensemaker [4d\]: who relayed it last time?
sensemaker [4d\]: i slept during the long ko
mint [4d\]: really? I saw that commenting live last year...I thought he was quite gentle with his choice of words.
Kuros [8k\]: hahaha quiet mode got added at just the right moment in the demonstration :)
Tetriste [17k\]: was about time, people were annoying during commentaries-.-
Orc [4d\]: white's brother jiang zhu jiu is much stronger
Hometet [9k\]: check usgo10 takemya coments :))
MssrBlanc [3k\]: I read the sgf, I thought otherwise.
norg [3k\]: Is his brother jujo on KGS?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: But perhaps I'm wrong. 
igitur [4d\]: d4 should be f5
calm [5k\]: USGO1 don't pick your nose.
sfrex [1k\]: my dad is stronger than yr dad
Orc [4d\]: not sure
eurogotv [-\]: best camera view of EuroGoTV-US sofar!
Orc [4d\]: jiang ju jiu was top pro
Long88 [2d\]: is there another link, i can't access
]
;B[gp]
;W[fp]C[eurogotv [-\]: why not Long88?
]
;B[io]C[sanrensei [7k\]: c6!
Long88 [2d\]: i think i forgot my passwords
eurogotv [-\]: there is a button for that
icecream [?\]: I like B's style :)
dark [2d\]: b's style is deep 
Hometet [9k\]: hmm takemya prefers alot black :D
ukeewu [2d?\]: it is strange watching andy play black
rvrey [7k\]: they play fast ? no 
PowerTower [1d\]: the game seems promising
weirdchess [5k\]: c7 > c6
lonsan [1k\]: jujo strong for sure
XY0908 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
starstruck [6k\]: w has gone out for a pee
mint [4d\]: very relevant information.
Tetriste [17k\]: might actually be :O
mint [4d\]: i wonder why J5 and not J4.
SColbert [3d\]: b's doing very well
Pushupman [?\]: GO MINGJIU
dark [2d\]: lol i like how this game is like the only one with the good stones and bowls
Orc [4d\]: how come big bad wolf is stronger than pros
SColbert [3d\]: bbw is a kid :)
ketchup [2k\]: why not?
xedover [5k?\]: he studies
AroundOneD [2d\]: both c6 and c7 are not good. 
icecream [?\]: I wondered that mint
nhanh [1d\]: pros are too weak
Timshel [1d\]: cuz the pros teach now, not actually play competetively
AroundOneD [2d\]: b has d6 fo rit
MssrBlanc [3k\]: 18.  If he were in asia, expectation would be that he's 4p..
Orc [4d\]: I mean he could be a pro as well 
sfrex [1k\]: i wonder US n EURO  go level which side is  stronger 
Karcusrd [7k\]: the players great adience great but the setting is like a lunch room wrong for this game
InExtremis [2d?\]: sorry josh, my phone died!
PowerTower [1d\]: US stronger
Hometet [9k\]: k4?
Timshel [1d\]: has there ever been a US vs Europe tournament?
PowerTower [1d\]: yes
norg [3k\]: US would win
eurogotv [-\]: i think BBW is stronger then any European
PowerTower [1d\]: twice, last century
mint [4d\]: Andy Liu vs. Oh Chi-min would be a great match.
norg [3k\]: Having said that, Europe has players like Dinerchtein
xDragon [15k\]: didnt the USA lose the USA v canada tourney?
Rocker [4d\]: hmm he didnt cut at l10 first
Sagara02 [2d\]: BBW = ?
ikea [2d\]: if it was american caucasians, i think europe would win
lonsan [1k\]: norg: yeah, so us wins easy
lonsan [1k\]: or canada
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: the USA canada tournament is still going
Sandalphon [5d\]: Alright, cmon, Russia is different...
lonsan [1k\]: yes, canada still winning in us vs canada
sfrex [1k\]: they should ve held US N EURO tournament
eurogotv [-\]: Oh Chi-min is living in Germany but he is not a European
bolb [-\]: BigBadWolf sagara
sanrensei [7k\]: will there be commentary?
mint [4d\]: fine...Andy vs. Alex
Timshel [1d\]: there is
Sagara02 [2d\]: Thx bolb
Sandalphon [5d\]: they play in European league... but Russia is really a different world
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;W[en]
;B[cn]C[Orc [4d\]: is there caucasian pro in the US?
ukeewu [2d?\]: check usgo10
Sandalphon [5d\]: So, cut out dinerchstein
Emiel [10k\]: dont underestimate  europe
icecream [?\]: Dinerchtein played for Europe in a Europe vs US match a while back (and won)
]
;W[iq]C[xedover [5k?\]: the commentary is in usgo10
Rocker [4d\]: Russia is bigger than europe+ u.s.a ,, therfore its superior!
]
;B[cf]C[TJman [6k\]: hey, is there a video stream for takemiya's commentary? 
xDragon [15k\]: europe also has catalin
xedover [5k?\]: no
Luminaire [3k\]: andy strong, I think yesterday was Feng Yun's 6th rated loss ever
starstruck [6k\]: w seems to be having trouble
TJman [6k\]: bah =(
Uberdude [5d?\]: orc, redmond is american in japan 9p
sanrensei [7k\]: thanks xedover!
]
;W[pd]
;B[qd]C[baned4life: b will collapse
]
;W[qc]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: I know he HAS played for europe, but it's a bit like the US claiming Aguilar
xDragon [15k\]: then svetlana shikshina 3p
]
;B[qb]C[Dreamlight [13k\]: Redmond is in this tournament?
mint [4d\]: no.
Hometet [9k\]: whos redmond?
ColdFront [4k\]: Redmond is a pimp
norg [3k\]: American 9p
mint [4d\]: well...who else does Europe have then, if the limitation is Europeans and no Russia?
Rocker [4d\]: michael redmond! i m michael diamond!
Sagara02 [2d\]: A 9p american
xDragon [15k\]: michael redmond 9p, only western 9p ever
PowerTower [1d\]: E6 looks dangerous
mint [4d\]: Ondrej Silt?
TheMagic [3k\]: Michael Redmon is a pro with the Japanese professional go associations
starstruck [6k\]: redmond top american pro
norg [3k\]: Dai Junfu for Europe?
lonsan [1k\]: artem :)
eq [1d\]: i have played with michael redmnd!
SColbert [3d\]: i think
eq [1d\]: *cooolest*
Uberdude [5d?\]: mint, people like cornel, mero csaba
lonsan [1k\]: yes, why not dai junfu
SColbert [3d\]: s17 s16 s18 q18 m18 
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;W[hf]C[Hometet [9k\]: look Atem^^
xDragon [15k\]: i like europe in europe v usa
Rocker [4d\]: redmond is old , maybe dinerstein can beat him now
xDragon [15k\]: redmond wuoldnt play for usa
ketchup [2k\]: e14 says i win
norg [3k\]: Didn't Oysy used to be in Europe, actually?
Orc [4d\]: white is catching up now
Uberdude [5d?\]: yes
mint [4d\]: yeah
Uberdude [5d?\]: fora  year
lonsan [1k\]: does redmond still play?
lonsan [1k\]: or just commentate?
starstruck [6k\]: w looks happy with this move
Ferushen [6k\]: lonsan, if he's alive.. he plays
MssrBlanc [3k\]: redmond is still playing
Anubis53 [1k\]: motoki noguchi
lonsan [1k\]: competitively, i mean of course
]
;B[lb]C[MssrBlanc [3k\]: he's had ok results in some preliminary tournaments
lonsan [1k\]: oh cool, thanks
MssrBlanc [3k\]: but it's been awhile since he's gone far, I think
MssrBlanc [3k\]: Just reached 500 professional wins
SColbert [3d\]: i think w's looking at k10
AroundOneD [2d\]: c12
SColbert [3d\]: or k8
starstruck [6k\]: I think w needs to find a bigger chink in b's armour
Rocker [4d\]: michael jackson was 3d AGA as far as i know
xDragon [15k\]: though id have to wonder if hans pietsch would have made it to 9p had he lived
ThiGar [8k\]: Isen't c6-c10-c14 too thin?
norg [3k\]: If he came back to USA, would he be stronger than Feng Yun, Yilun Yagn etc
norg [3k\]: ?
Timshel [1d\]: no 
Long88 [2d\]: so is this the final game
lonsan [1k\]: no, he was 4d rocker, honorary post-mortem
denizen [2k\]: what happened to the game
denizen [2k\]: is it finished?
norg [3k\]: I meant Redmond :P
eurogotv [-\]: FREE live TV broadcast of this game (without ads; no spam) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Hometet [9k\]: must login ..
Hometet [9k\]: af
Ukasuhs [1k\]: its free t make an account
jersta [15k\]: thx euro
Ukasuhs [1k\]: just need an email address
Hometet [9k\]: its to much time
Hometet [9k\]: thx
starstruck [6k\]: if my ability to read body language is any good, b is winning and w is looking dor a very good rebuttal
igitur [4d\]: Mingjiu is confident with his yose
Rocker [4d\]: c u after i have big macs
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;W[ch]
;B[kc]C[mint [4d\]: lol
]
;W[kd]C[mint [4d\]: quick play is power play
ukeewu [2d?\]: i was waiting for c12 to show up
terrorist [3k\]: Andy is so cool, geting to play pros as equals all the time
PowerTower [1d\]: interesting: They play without a timekeeping device. So how is the time enforced?
Timshel [1d\]: they have oe
mint [4d\]: they make a mental note of it.
Hometet [9k\]: why chess clocks
Hometet [9k\]: ..
Timshel [1d\]: its the brown thing
WoBuDong: With a stick
PowerTower [1d\]: no chess clocks
erkkierkki [7k\]: its ING clock
WoBuDong: If you take too long its a beatin...
Long88 [2d\]: he has pro rating but not pro
lonsan [1k\]: not that it does much good if andy can't remember ot hit it
]
;B[bd]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: they obv have a chronosavant keeping time for them
]
;W[bc]C[PowerTower [1d\]: what is an ING clock?
]
;B[dd]C[norg [3k\]: k17 must be big
xedover [5k?\]: the red thing next to the board
baned4life: who is the user veggie?
icecream [?\]: Ing clocks speak to you
]
;W[dc]
;B[ce]
;W[cc]C[MssrBlanc [3k\]: veggie is thomas hsiang
PowerTower [1d\]: ok
siulongbao [6k\]: is andy an amatuer or pro ?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: amateur
siulongbao [6k\]: is minjiu a pro ?
icecream [?\]: I played in a tournament once where there was a room full of Ing clocks, all talking at the same time
Ukasuhs [1k\]: yes
siulongbao [6k\]: hrmm
siulongbao [6k\]: but same lvl ?
trebleclef [2k\]: hmmm
lonsan [1k\]: yes, hate the ing clocks
siulongbao [6k\]: same rank ?
trebleclef [2k\]: i would like to take black
KikiDuk: speaking in the childish voice
baned4life: just 1 ing clock can be a problem
starstruck [6k\]: w c12 is looking lonlier
Ukasuhs [1k\]: not same rank
eextreme [3k\]: looks like black is winning
yaldaboath [4k\]: "Black basic time counting begin"  so much hate
KikiDuk: yh8
Hometet [9k\]: e12
starstruck [6k\]:  b e12 looks strong to me
siulongbao [6k\]: i think B is winning
siulongbao [6k\]: newayz
Long88 [2d\]: it would be funny if ING clock say, "you are the loser, go back to real life"
siulongbao [6k\]: b + 38 or so
Yazu [4d\]: hello GO ANDY!!!!!!!
]
;B[bh]C[Yazu [4d\]: hello GO ANDY!!!!!!!
Hometet [9k\]: k
eurogotv [-\]: lol
baned4life: Are europeans more wealthy and thats why they have nice stuff and AGA has a shoe string budget
icecream [?\]: B12 kind of surprising direction
Long88 [2d\]: so is this the FINal game?
amego [3k\]: SE says B ahead
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;W[cm]C[norg [3k\]: AGA has stronger players to make up for it
MChow [6k\]: SE only good at the end
trebleclef [2k\]: w 42 points strong
Hometet [9k\]: k16
SColbert [3d\]: i think b difficult
erkkierkki [7k\]: SE japanese rules, this game ING rules
Ukasuhs [1k\]: and still not good if theres a seki
erkkierkki [7k\]: SE wrong
icecream [?\]: D6
PowerTower [1d\]: c7 very strong
Orc [4d\]: strange, the americans are supposed to be wealthy
Ukasuhs [1k\]: lol
iTengen [3k\]: heh no
Ukasuhs [1k\]: what?
]
;B[bm]C[smoke [7k\]: we were
trebleclef [2k\]: b 55 points strong
Leibnix [8k\]: then you elected W.
iTengen [3k\]: the american dream is only possible by stomping on a hundred other below you
iTengen [3k\]: many of them are very poor
MChow [6k\]: SE using ING rules
SColbert [3d\]: i think b8 maybe
terrorist [3k\]: americans are more wealthy, but fewer play go
siulongbao [6k\]: SE is always correct
siulongbao [6k\]: wat u mean
icecream [?\]: Hmm, I wonder why B didn't fight here
Ukasuhs [1k\]: americans are not more wealthy...
SColbert [3d\]: b aji here is bad
TheTuss [6k\]: who are we rooting for
ketchup [2k\]: if b gets in k16
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: black
ketchup [2k\]: what happens?
TheTuss [6k\]: go black
Ukasuhs [1k\]: white
TheTuss [6k\]: err
TheTuss [6k\]: go white
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: take it back Tus
Hometet [9k\]: g6..
Orc [4d\]: time for cross cut!
SColbert [3d\]: b6 possible
TheTuss [6k\]: i meant go away white
Ukasuhs [1k\]: why root for b instead of w?
norg [3k\]: Because b is KGS legend
lonsan [1k\]: takemiya's commentary is awesome...he's using part of the board as a marker for b's lead
TheTuss [6k\]: this looks pretty even
trebleclef [2k\]: c5 
Long88 [2d\]: because if he wins , i will play Go again
TheTuss [6k\]: is andy ama?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: w plays on kgs too
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;W[bn]C[iTengen [3k\]: yes ama
Aphelion02 [9k\]: where can se see takemiya's commentary?
lonsan [1k\]: usgo10
Luminaire [3k\]: usgo10
]
;B[bo]C[Orc [4d\]: is usgo10 a room?
TheTuss [6k\]: no
lonsan [1k\]: user
pendulum [3k\]: there should be a live stream from takemiya commenting =[
TheTuss [6k\]: look in the active games windows
amego [3k\]: c5/
amego [3k\]: ?
starstruck [6k\]: b still looks confident
baned4life: aga can only afford 1 hour of commentary....I think hehe
turk [6d\]: w seems far behind
Luminaire [3k\]: usgo10 user info
amego [3k\]: b7 was risky
play234 [-\]: is there live stream on this game?
lonsan [1k\]: yes
XY0908 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
play234 [-\]: thx
starstruck [6k\]: I think w is hoping to find a way to attack b c10 but can't see it
cjalden [2k\]: pros don't use that sort of thought process
Rythmic [7k\]: wasnt takemiya going to comment? where do I have to go for that?
iTengen [3k\]: hoping? not likely
Luminaire [3k\]: usgo10 user info
iTengen [3k\]: more like, reading
Timshel [1d\]: actually w doesnt look that behind
k23 [3k\]: me neither
PowerTower [1d\]: now, I watch on three screens (Game, comentary and live stream)
amego [3k\]: k17 is huge
k23 [3k\]: he still have really big end game moves
Hometet [9k\]: what is live stram
Hometet [9k\]: ?
eurogotv [-\]: FREE live TV broadcast of this game (without ads; no spam) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Schmidtt [13k\]: Stop trolling Hometet
Hometet [9k\]: trolling?
eurogotv [-\]: ah
Ukasuhs [1k\]: asking a question once isnt trolling
Schmidtt [13k\]: I agree
Ukasuhs [1k\]: no matter what the question
Luminaire [3k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
USGO1 [-\]: b has 58 minutes; w has 37 minutes
Hometet [9k\]: schmidtt pay atention on game not at me and my question isnt so stupydy
Orc [4d\]: it looks to me blk is better now
KikiDuk: schmidt is just too uptight
frogola [?\]: eurogo login user/pw?
Yazu [4d\]: hello GO ANDY!!!!!!!
Kuros [8k\]: i suck, i can't find the stream for the commentary :(
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: test/test
eurogotv [-\]: register; it takes 30 seconds
KikiDuk: guest/guest
lonsan [1k\]: there is no stream for commentary
AroundOneD [2d\]: points about same, but fighting is for b.
erkkierkki [7k\]: ukasuhs :) "xxxx[5d\] : what is this game we are playing?"
]
;W[co]C[Kuros [8k\]: PowerTower [1d\]: now, I watch on three screens (Game, comentary and live stream)
]
;B[an]C[Kuros [8k\]: :Q
]
;W[dn]
;B[bn]C[starstruck [6k\]: w keeps looking at different parts of the board
Leibnix [8k\]: I gather takemiya's marker stone goes to the right when andy has the advantage?
amego [3k\]: c5
lonsan [1k\]: right
lonsan [1k\]: he said when it gets to T, the game is over
amego [3k\]: c4
Yazu [4d\]: time?
lonsan [1k\]: 58 andy, 37 mingjiu
Ukasuhs [1k\]: c4 d5 c3 c2 
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;W[km]C[TJman [6k\]: where's the marker stone? =o
Ukasuhs [1k\]: c4 impossible
norg [3k\]: n6
lonsan [1k\]: they describe the marker in the commentary game
USGO1 [-\]: b 58 minutes; w 36 minutes
dark [2d\]: waves to usgo*
eurogotv [-\]: thx USGO1
TJman [6k\]: oh so its not actually on the commentary kgs board
Luminaire [3k\]: I like the marker stone idea a lot, he is at N now :)
lonsan [1k\]: yes it is described there
lonsan [1k\]: but you can't see it
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;B[ln]C[norg [3k\]: k6 
Long88 [2d\]: if andy wins, he will be the first 
Luminaire [3k\]: I'll let you know if it moves ok?
norg [3k\]: Oh
turk [6d\]: w has a chance if L18 works
starstruck [6k\]: b seems very confident
Orc [4d\]: L18 barely works
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: l18 loses the n17 stones doesn't it?
turk [6d\]: b should be confident, he is doing well
Ukasuhs [1k\]: no, w would lose l16
goplayer0 [8k\]: is Andy Liu's 7d the 7d on KGS or it is preffessional 7d??
]
;W[im]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: 9d on KGS
eurogotv [-\]: 9d kgs
Leibnix [8k\]: he is 9d ok kgs
Sandalphon [5d\]: 7d AGA
mccrusty [2k\]: what does the winner get?
Uberdude [5d?\]: cake
Ukasuhs [1k\]: angy liu is BigBadWolf[9d\]
lloyd [1d\]: honor and glory!
erkkierkki [7k\]: Kiss from usgo1
Dmajor7106 [2k\]: the cake is a lie...
calvinlee [-\]: he will be the first what, Long?
ketchup [2k\]: anything connecting g4 will work
siulongbao [6k\]: andy liu is bigbadwolf ?
Long88 [2d\]: first amateur ING master
turk [6d\]: j8
jersta [15k\]: hahaha
calvinlee [-\]: not true
Long88 [2d\]: really
lonsan [1k\]: love and adoration
turk [6d\]: many amateurs have won ing master
NattyIce [1k\]: zchen did it?
calvinlee [-\]: well, i guess if you want to be technical
calvinlee [-\]: the ing masters
turk [6d\]: zchen did not
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;B[gn]C[calvinlee [-\]: ing masters = namt + ing
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: pros only allowed in the last 2 times i believe
turk [6d\]: jie li, veggie did it
NattyIce [1k\]: oh
calvinlee [-\]: so andy would be the first amateur
calvinlee [-\]: since pros were allowed
Orc [4d\]: game is decided by this fight here
]
;W[gm]C[starstruck [6k\]: now we learn why b j5, not j4
ketchup [2k\]: j6?
turk [6d\]: what? star?
amego [3k\]: k6
norg [3k\]: Andy is still ahead?
KaZan: i didn t able to have video games at this lşink
turk [6d\]: j5 anticipated this? ^^
TheTuss [6k\]: was he ever
Orc [4d\]: H7 nxt move?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: since j9 is sente, h7 no good
turk [6d\]: how do you know?
eurogotv [-\]: where are you from Kazan (people from China and Turkey cannot see the live tv stream)
Luminaire [3k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
mccrusty [2k\]: it looks like mingjiu might be able to see the kibitz out of the corner of his eye .. that is an unfair advantage for andy
elohimmeth [1d\]: well.. is that anythin wrong with R8 now ?
KaZan: yes i understand now  
Orc [4d\]: but the kibitz does nothing other than confuse mingjiu :P
Luminaire [3k\]: mingjiu would not care to see this kibitz
lonsan [1k\]: that's why it's an advantage for andy lo
lonsan [1k\]: l
starstruck [6k\]: ya, w might be able to see the kgs kibbutz
KaZan: but don t know the reason yet
PowerTower [1d\]: .
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;B[fm]C[eextreme [3k\]: h6 for white?
SColbert [3d\]: b's playing tough
starstruck [6k\]: w f6 looks weak, b f6 looks strong
JayJoseki [2d?\]: I think w should cut
emc2 [7k\]: wf6
fodder [5k?\]: doesn't look like w has any other choice
Thanshin [4k?\]: If w reads the kibitz he'll inmediately lose two stones. At least.
stuckto1d [2d?\]: unfair advantages for a 7p to see the comments of kyus and low dans ? :D
starstruck [6k\]: wf6 leads to bh7?
fodder [5k?\]: make him go blind
Thanshin [4k?\]: stuckto, he said advantage for andy.
denizen [2k\]: is that their second game today?
TheTuss [6k\]: h6 
Tiesto [2d\]: i dont think white wants to f6
Luminaire [3k\]: this is NAIM final
starstruck [6k\]: ditto tiesto
icecream [?\]: I don't understand why B played low on the left side
sanrensei [7k\]: can w connect to below with h7?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: i vote f6
ketchup [2k\]: f6 gives up l6 no?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: no
starstruck [6k\]: b ponnuki at g7 looks big
amego [3k\]: h6?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: unless b j8 but then w gets enough anyway
bighead [1d\]: dfsjkasljkfds
AroundOneD [2d\]: j9
Thanshin [4k?\]: I vote j6
Thanshin [4k?\]: I think I see miai cuts on both sides.
tanoq: is this a mixed tournament - pros & amateurs? 
fodder [5k?\]: w has j9
TheTuss [6k\]: j6 g5 
Ukasuhs [1k\]: yes
johnny [7k\]: maybe W k5 first?
Thorvald [7k\]: tanm
Luminaire [3k\]: yes tanoq
Thorvald [7k\]: tanoq, yes
tanoq: is andy liu a kgs player? thx for answering everyone
calvinlee [-\]: bigbadwolf
Thanshin [4k?\]: Yes.
TheTuss [6k\]: any is bbw oh
norg [3k\]: f6 h7 g8 j8 ?
TheTuss [6k\]: didnt knnow that
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;W[hn]
;B[gl]
;W[hm]
;B[fn]C[amego [3k\]: see that/
]
;W[go]C[amego [3k\]: ?
]
;B[fl]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: if f6 h7 w would j9 first
calvinlee [-\]: damn
terrorist [3k\]: andy liu is so cool he has an internet abreviation, like lol
fodder [5k?\]: lol
tanoq: oh wow thats pretty special for him to come that far although 9 or 10d here should be 1-2p and in the P- realm everythings possible but still remarkable
starstruck [6k\]: b left side now huge
]
;W[ik]
;B[jj]C[calvinlee [-\]: andy could easily go pro in like japan
norg [3k\]: e5 is growing larger
Bruno [1d\]: or center
Thanshin [4k?\]: This seems great for b-
Timshel [1d\]: b trad corner for center?
Timshel [1d\]: d5  for w
climbtrees [6k\]: e5 nicely large
k23 [3k\]: d5 ?
TheTuss [6k\]: yess
Bruno [1d\]: E5 is not so bad for w
Bruno [1d\]: he can connect
Ukasuhs [1k\]: but w can d5 sente
eurogotv [-\]: FREE live TV broadcast of this game (without ads; no spam) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
NattyIce [1k\]: is this good for w? doesnt seem so
Luminaire [3k\]: he beat two famous pros in two days
Luminaire [3k\]: now maybe three
calvinlee [-\]: he's beaten mingjiu before
tanoq: how much does an average pro earn - like anually?
Long88 [2d\]: 1$
TheTuss [6k\]: not enough
MssrBlanc [3k\]: mean or median?
Luminaire [3k\]: three in a row would be very impressive
Timshel [1d\]: minus tax
norg [3k\]: h5 no longer looks really safe for b, so can't w just e5?
NattyIce [1k\]: less than 100K i think
Ukasuhs [1k\]: median is more practical
Leibnix [8k\]: pros are all far above average :)
Long88 [2d\]: engineer only make around 50000 $
amego [3k\]: i vote for d5
NattyIce [1k\]: beginning engineers
MssrBlanc [3k\]: median is pretty low, I think
tanoq: but is it enough to make a decent living? how much does a chess player earn or a shogi player?
Thanshin [4k?\]: There are very large differences in earning between little differences in rank. As in many sports.
MssrBlanc [3k\]: Absolute top is about $1 million
PowerTower [1d\]: in germayn, a lot of engineers don't make any money at all :-)
Taishoubu [2d\]: hello yazu
TheTuss [6k\]: i heard real madrid is gonna book sedol for like 50 billion
MssrBlanc [3k\]: and that's not consistent
tanoq: but thats from contracts or advertising
Long88 [2d\]: O_O
Taishoubu [2d\]: hello yazu
Yazu [4d\]: hello Taishoubu
MssrBlanc [3k\]: $1 million is if you win half the major championships in one country
Yazu [4d\]: how are you doing?
Taishoubu [2d\]: very good
Leibnix [8k\]: maybe more sponsors would be attracted if go was in the olympic games
Luminaire [3k\]: takemiya commentary to C10 move, He has moved marker in favor of Andy to letter O
NattyIce [1k\]: sedol gets money from china as well
Long88 [2d\]: manchester united bill lee changho for like 1 billion
AroundOneD [2d\]: h5
grossomodo [1k\]: this andy is talented
SColbert [3d\]: so w has two weaknesses
SColbert [3d\]: e5 and h6
kob93 [1d\]: what were u saying long?
grossomodo [1k\]: why not pro?
Yazu [4d\]: GO ANDY!!!! \\o/
TheTuss [6k\]: champions league real madrid vs manchester should be interesting
NattyIce [1k\]: w seems to have  many weaknesses
donGoku [5k\]: k5
Long88 [2d\]: engineers are poor, don't know if I really going to make 50,000 a year
Long88 [2d\]: maybe way less
gru [7k\]: n6?
Uberdude [5d?\]: is this tournamebt to decide american rep at ing cup with all the asian pros?
pendulum [3k\]: how much time left in their clocks?
fodder [5k?\]: w looks a little stressed on the video feed
Thorvald [7k\]: would be w e5 good ?
Thorvald [7k\]: b e5*
Taishoubu [2d\]: GO ANDY :O
spherical [-\]: what a game
Someone456 [5k?\]: what was the result of andy and kim?
norg [3k\]: e5 deals with 1 of 2 weak groups for w
nhanh [1d\]: hard to decide for w
lonsan [1k\]: kim + res
Someone456 [5k?\]: k thanks
Thorvald [7k\]: but close game
AroundOneD [2d\]: d5 1st
lonsan [1k\]: not too close, but res was in yose
Yazu [4d\]: I LOVE ANDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
fodder [5k?\]: norg, b can't cut at h5 right now.
Long88 [2d\]: if andy wins, I aim for 9d on kgs
PowerTower [1d\]: w d5 sente?
donGoku [5k\]: k5
Yoseki [2k\]: I aim for 1k
terrorist [3k\]: I aim for being an uniflated 3k
iTengen [3k\]: i aim as always for 1d
Ukasuhs [1k\]: ill race u there^^
fodder [5k?\]: I aim to make my opponents blind
amego [3k\]: is d5 sente for w?
fbbtd: i aim for megan fox naked
Timshel [1d\]: lol
fbbtd: so to speak
jersta [15k\]: lol
Ukasuhs [1k\]: only pros aim for that^^
SColbert [3d\]: what's your weapon?
SColbert [3d\]: fbbtd
Taishoubu [2d\]: my stick
Long88 [2d\]: megan fox is terrible at Go
fbbtd: do u really wanna know
lonsan [1k\]: maybe better not to ask, scolbert
elohimmeth [1d\]: O7 maybe..
fodder [5k?\]: that kind of talk will likely get you in trouble with the powers that be.
TheTuss [6k\]: h9 cmon
Schmidtt [13k\]: only pros achieve that*
norg [3k\]: cracked.com has an amusing article on megan fox
fbbtd: true
eextreme [3k\]: d5?
spherical [-\]: isn't k17 big?
Bruno [1d\]: this conversation is really s...d
TheTuss [6k\]: oh h5
Leibnix [8k\]: what can possibly be better than d5?
Pizat19 [1k\]: good question.
TheTuss [6k\]: h4 then
ThiGar [8k\]: h5
weirdchess [5k\]: d5 fine, but it can be saved for later
TheTuss [6k\]: right h5
elohimmeth [1d\]: whats d5 do ?
starstruck [6k\]: w does not want to move
TheTuss [6k\]: for w prevents d5
starstruck [6k\]: nothing good
Timshel [1d\]: threaten kill corner
TheTuss [6k\]: e5
fbbtd: norg, no such thing on cracked com
k23 [3k\]: threats to kill d3 group
TheTuss [6k\]: preventys e5
Pizat19 [1k\]: black isnt dead if white gets d5, but it connects all his white stones, and makes black live in gote in the corner
AroundOneD [2d\]: o7 is too early
NattyIce [1k\]: w needs a move that does 3 things at once-all over  the board
SColbert [3d\]: i think w has to go h10
amego [3k\]: d5 or k17
elohimmeth [1d\]: o7 looks sente to me
Long88 [2d\]: look!! UFO, pa pa, E5 and H5
SColbert [3d\]: or h9
elohimmeth [1d\]: o7 n6 r7  maybe..
Pizat19 [1k\]: d5 yields future sente
Pizat19 [1k\]: then k17
starstruck [6k\]: w took a stone out and then put it back in the bowl
TheTuss [6k\]: k5 gogog
Yoseki [2k\]: Mingjiu likes to do that
donGoku [5k\]: k5 then attack p4
rvrey [7k\]: or E5 or H5^^^
Long88 [2d\]: black is not safe
lonsan [1k\]: how come this is the only time first board has had such a nice go set?
Long88 [2d\]: w an N6
Luminaire [3k\]: takemiya says he is very impressed with black, commentary up to move B12 now
starstruck [6k\]: then again
k23 [3k\]: luminaire where is this commenatry?
Luminaire [3k\]: usgo10 user info
Thorvald [7k\]: USGO10
sfrex [1k\]: testing
rvrey [7k\]: w in trouble ^^^
norg [3k\]: Does Takemiya think he'd be concerned if he had to play b
norg [3k\]: ?
Yoseki [2k\]: i like C12
k23 [3k\]: sorry, but i dont get it
k23 [3k\]: twitter account?
icecream [?\]: Takemiya has reached move 98, and likes B so far up to that point
lonsan [1k\]: no, kgs account
k23 [3k\]: yes im seeing his info but?
]
;W[mn]
;B[nn]C[lonsan [1k\]: the active game in it
gru [7k\]: i said n6:)
Luminaire [3k\]: yes
starstruck [6k\]: b plays fast
]
;W[do]C[chiron [5k\]: kgs style 10 secs/move
amego [3k\]: o7
lonsan [1k\]: uses w time to think
Ukasuhs [1k\]: well o6 is kind of obvious
]
;B[cp]C[MssrBlanc [3k\]: does anyone know the video feed url?
fodder [5k?\]: what's the purpose of n6?
UFGS [3d\]: k17
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: will b become pro if he wins all  these matches.?
lonsan [1k\]: in general though, uses less time even than myungwan
lonsan [1k\]: no
Pizat19 [1k\]: k17 :O so many points
amego [3k\]: k17
chiron [5k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
TheTuss [6k\]: h5
Yoseki [2k\]: nice shapes
Bruno [1d\]: who is the gentilman in the chair with cp? if may i ask
elohimmeth [1d\]: n5..
AroundOneD [2d\]: o7
fodder [5k?\]: no pro organizations in the US, koreangirl
UFGS [3d\]: B11
mcw85 [7k\]: Hmm, I just got here but it seems like B is winning, no?
TheTuss [6k\]: k5
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: k
lonsan [1k\]: b will win of course
fodder [5k?\]: apparently the scribe.
]
;W[dl]
;B[cl]C[Bruno [1d\]: N 5 is the way out
Taishoubu [2d\]: hello yazu
]
;W[el]C[byuan [5d?\]: n6 is to short liberties of M5 group
Bruno [1d\]: even if the stones are deadish
Ukasuhs [1k\]: n6 creates aji that prevents b from playing h5 so w cant o7 yet
chiron [5k\]: h5 no good?
Yoseki [2k\]: oh W has plans...
TheTuss [6k\]: g10 
Pizat19 [1k\]: this is to stop black from any funny business at j8?
Bruno [1d\]: white is happy
lonsan [1k\]: j5 time?
AroundOneD [2d\]: w think he can hold for a while for h5
lonsan [1k\]: err h5
]
;B[fj]C[chiron [5k\]: no funny business allowed
Bruno [1d\]: h5 not needed
fodder [5k?\]: b couldn't play h5 anyway.
Bruno [1d\]: white is connected
Bruno [1d\]: is miai
eextreme [3k\]: yeah
eextreme [3k\]: not matter what
fodder [5k?\]: h5, k5, trapped
AroundOneD [2d\]: b has k4
norg [3k\]: k17
eextreme [3k\]: but black might get the 3 pieces
lonsan [1k\]: i am not so sure...feels like there isa way
erkkierkki [7k\]: then k5 sente or? :D
byuan [5d?\]: w has l5
Bruno [1d\]: if black h5 then white can move at k5
erkkierkki [7k\]: for black
Long88 [2d\]: grey is doing well
redpill [2k\]: j4 black ?
]
;W[dj]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: whole w is in trap, after k4
Bruno [1d\]: hehe Long88
spherical [-\]: feels = too lazy to read?
norg [3k\]: d7 is sente?
lonsan [1k\]: no i have a sequence in mind, i am trying to find a flaw
Ukasuhs [1k\]: d7 more of a ko threat
Long88 [2d\]: what a narrow road white walking
lonsan [1k\]: looks like i can't pull better than a ko
Bruno [1d\]: white will win by 33 points in yose
Bruno [1d\]: bets
Akagi316 [?\]: lolz
lonsan [1k\]: that is like 3 steps
lonsan [1k\]: i guess i misread
Yoseki [2k\]: you mean 3 points
Cool007 [2k\]: is H5 cut work?
amego [3k\]: c11
AroundOneD [2d\]: d7
SColbert [3d\]: w can play at l5
AroundOneD [2d\]: or c9
amego [3k\]: or d9
SColbert [3d\]: if h5
fdgs: is d7 good?
]
;B[dm]C[redpill [2k\]: j8 first :>
chiron [5k\]: Scolbert, aha, thx for that
Leibnix [8k\]: yes :)
Long88 [2d\]: w r7 is dangerous
fdgs: lol
Long88 [2d\]: if white is lee sedol, this position is easy
SColbert [3d\]: not necessarily
AroundOneD [2d\]: b has p7 for r7
Long88 [2d\]: but white can force o7 first
Ukasuhs [1k\]: but then w gets s5 sente
SColbert [3d\]: c11 is w's chance
starstruck [6k\]: w connects, b c9, w reply, b gets d11
spherical [-\]: if w were lee sedol, most positions would be i reckon, long 88
Luminaire [3k\]: commentary caught up, Takemiya marker is at letter O in favor of Andy still, not sure if he is paying attention to the marker anymore howerver
Luminaire [3k\]: perhaps
eextreme [3k\]: k4 is a good move ends in a ko at worst
xcut [1d\]: l7 is dangerous sente
xcut [1d\]: o7*
USGO1 [-\]: b has 49 minutes; w has 11 plus minutes
Luminaire [3k\]: he just said marker is correct
amego [3k\]: e7 only move
Luminaire [3k\]: oh no, ye moved to N
Bruno [1d\]: G 18 huge moyo
mcw85 [7k\]: At letter O in favor of? What does this mean?
HikaShin [-\]: K = even
Luminaire [3k\]: it is like a meter, in who he favors
WaChing [-\]: thanks Luminaire
lonsan [1k\]: he started the marker at k, and as it moves towards T it marks andy's advantage
HikaShin [-\]: T = black win
lonsan [1k\]: when it gets to T, game voer
SColbert [3d\]: w should go c11 i think
Leibnix [8k\]: on a scale from a to t
lonsan [1k\]: over*
HikaShin [-\]: the letters on the board
mcw85 [7k\]: Interesting... Haha
Long88 [2d\]: white just throwing this game away
chiron [5k\]: whats the byoyomi in this game?
Luminaire [3k\]: between J and K is even
ychen666 [?\]: close game!
Ukasuhs [1k\]: 5 x 1 minute i think
lonsan [1k\]: 5x1min i beleive
lonsan [1k\]: believe*
mcw85 [7k\]: 5x1min
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
grossomodo [1k\]: yeah N :)
ponticello [2k\]: what is the marker?
HikaShin [-\]: he moved it back to N
BuhariEX [2k\]: where is myung kim?
ponticello [2k\]: just a scale of who's winning?
lonsan [1k\]: yes
Yoseki [2k\]: Kim is in another tourney
johnny [7k\]: W is escaper!!!
Long88 [2d\]: kim is phoning lee sedol at the moment
USGO1 [-\]: byoyomi is 60 seconds five times
mcw85 [7k\]: Myung-wan completely destroyed the robot today...
BuhariEX [2k\]: why isn't he playing.. ?
Yoseki [2k\]: he is not North American?
lonsan [1k\]: they are playing the game out blind by coordinates, over the phone
ketchup [2k\]: so, t = tie, n = not yet over,  o = over?
SColbert [3d\]: mcw85
SColbert [3d\]: which robot?
Thorvald [7k\]: qu'est ce qui est entendu par marqueur ?
SColbert [3d\]: what's the setup
ychen666 [?\]: how to replay the game?
lonsan [1k\]: manyfaces
mcw85 [7k\]: Many Faces
ikea [2d\]: no, ketchup
ikea [2d\]: t=over
ketchup [2k\]: lol
mcw85 [7k\]: Supposedly a stone stronger than mogo.
chiron [5k\]: he just harumphed, so he's thinking of something
ponticello [2k\]: k even t andy one a mj won?
Long88 [2d\]: time to do some Finger of God
USGO1 [-\]: both players are in the same room at the US Go Congress
SColbert [3d\]: what's the setup
SColbert [3d\]: 7 stones?
mcw85 [7k\]: 7, yes.
SColbert [3d\]: okay
lonsan [1k\]: the funny thing is, takemiya has not said anything about using the marker for mingjiu's advantage :)
Kuros [8k\]: T is black wins, A is white wins
trebleclef [2k\]: what is marker?
Mihan [3k\]: w is angry
Leibnix [8k\]: he didn't SAY that, kuross
chiron [5k\]: now w is holding his head, must bepainful
Long88 [2d\]: w is escaper
Bruno [1d\]: white is pushing his head
Long88 [2d\]: admin help
Luminaire [3k\]: if the marker is to the left, that is in favor of Mingjiu
lonsan [1k\]: as if to imply that there won't be a w advantage 
SColbert [3d\]: i think the bots are not that strong
mcw85 [7k\]: Nope.
Ukasuhs [1k\]: what do u mean w is escaper?
SColbert [3d\]: the 1d KGS ranking can't withstand the test of time
mcw85 [7k\]: I think the programmer said about 1k.
chiron [5k\]: he seems to be scanning the F13 area
lonsan [1k\]: yeah, he said about 1k
SColbert [3d\]: no way...
Luminaire [3k\]: so if the marker starts in between J and K
Luminaire [3k\]: right for 
Luminaire [3k\]: Andy, and left for Mingjiu
Akagi316 [?\]: b looks good
iwant6pack [5d\]: wat are the times on the clock?
Mihan [3k\]: game is still close but b has no weakness and w has a ton. 
redpill [2k\]: 2:41
ketchup [2k\]: just said it a while back
MoussDiouf [11k\]: 49b 10w
ketchup [2k\]: 11 mins for white, 49 for black
ketchup [2k\]: i guess 10 now yea lol
chiron [5k\]: Andy's frustrated, saying "c'mon dude, just connect"
Schmidtt [13k\]: less for w now
Thorvald [7k\]: 49 for black about 6 for w
Tetriste [17k\]: hahaha I kinda agree, the decision shouldn't be that hard
Long88 [2d\]: pissing off tesuji
mcw85 [7k\]: Earlier it looked like Myung-wan was going to smash the clock when it went into byo-yomi and started talking.
amego [3k\]: c11
amego [3k\]: ?
]
;W[em]
;B[di]C[SColbert [3d\]: what was the time setting
]
;W[ej]C[MoussDiouf [11k\]: lol
]
;B[ei]C[SColbert [3d\]: for the bot match
lonsan [1k\]: 50min sd i think
mcw85 [7k\]: 45min
]
;W[fi]C[mcw85 [7k\]: But not much was used.
lonsan [1k\]: sorry, my mistake
]
;B[fk]C[kahin [6k\]: e5
ketchup [2k\]: soon h5..
Ukasuhs [1k\]: c9
Emiel [10k\]: what is the meaning of marker O and N?
amego [3k\]: d9
Yoseki [2k\]: G11, then C11
iTengen [3k\]: e9
Bruno [1d\]: h 5 never
chiron [5k\]: ketchup, h5 doest woirk because of what SColbert said, L5
ketchup [2k\]: does h5, k5 actually work?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: yes
ketchup [2k\]: l5 ? hmm
]
;W[ek]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: what a crueler this game
Ukasuhs [1k\]: especially since w can n5 to make b lose liberties
Thorvald [7k\]: how old is Andy ?
SColbert [3d\]: dear
SColbert [3d\]: andy is in big trouble
lonsan [1k\]: andy is 18
iTengen [3k\]: i called it chaps. keep b low on libs
ychen666 [?\]: how to rewind and replay the game? anybody care to tell me?
sutex [4k\]: 18 years old?
lonsan [1k\]: ychen: options > clone game in 
starstruck [6k\]: h10?
Uberdude [5d?\]: ychen, virew offline
sutex [4k\]: clone it
golgo13 [12k\]: no 10months
ukeewu [2d?\]: clone game is easist
ychen666 [?\]: thanks
TheTuss [6k\]: what it was to avoid connection
Ukasuhs [1k\]: w g10 would be big trouble
USGO1 [-\]: w has 4 minutes
golgo13 [12k\]: 18 months old
ponticello [2k\]: usgo10 features comments also
SColbert [3d\]: b can't play f12
cjalden [2k\]: yes.  He won the US Open in 2006 winning final game vs this same opponent
redpill [2k\]: young
Bruno [1d\]: black will win by time?
ponticello [2k\]: cloning that game yo uget some explanations
USGO1 [-\]: b has 47 minutes
Bruno [1d\]: so ugly way to won
starstruck [6k\]: b h11 or h10
mcw85 [7k\]: Sayagain cjaden?
xcut [1d\]: c10
xcut [1d\]: sorry c11
iTengen [3k\]: Tuss i know that but this is the best way in which to do that because it also accomplished what i said
songha [1k\]: anyone have a territory count?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: h11 doesnt help
icecream [?\]: Why can you use the buttons to replay locally (without cloning/view offline) for some games you watch?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: h11 g10
SColbert [3d\]: maybe b should just let go or f10 stones..
MssrBlanc [3k\]: demos are under the control of the creator
jersta [15k\]: is W running out of liberties there? 
WorkerBee [11k\]: Who is USGO1?
WaChing [-\]: USGO1 is Herr Doktor Prof. Dave Weimer, a very nice guy
MssrBlanc [3k\]: regular games, you can replay
TheTuss [6k\]: well yeah
amego [3k\]: h10
Tetriste [17k\]: you can simply go option and analyse
Yoseki [2k\]: you cna't for Demo games
kayzac [1d\]: which player is w?
MoussDiouf [11k\]: is it possible to see the whole game from the beginning ?
]
;B[gi]C[WorkerBee [11k\]: I don't understand . . . is this a live game?
xedover [5k?\]: yes
ketchup [2k\]: yes
chiron [5k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
oren [2k?\]: Mouss, option, view offline
TheTuss [6k\]: better than threat to c9
dsaun [2d\]: this is a live relay of a live game
Ukasuhs [1k\]: c11 looks painful
MoussDiouf [11k\]: k thx
WorkerBee [11k\]: Wow
]
;W[fh]C[Thanshin [4k?\]: Options - > View offline. to see the entire game
]
;B[ci]C[SColbert [3d\]: wow
Yoseki [2k\]: with live kibitz
Tetriste [17k\]: sry my KGS is french XD
SColbert [3d\]: andy's confident of the L&D in center
tonynogo [6k?\]: .
amego [3k\]: b in trouble?
ukeewu [2d?\]: f11 to come under attack?
gtgrouch [7k\]: Hello, Professor Weimer.  It's been almost 30 years!
amego [3k\]: h10
SColbert [3d\]: b has follow up at f13
golgo13 [12k\]: H5 seems vital for both.... but how cum no1 plays it yet?
Akagi316 [?\]: h5 doesn't work
lonsan [1k\]: tetrise: options > cloner la partie dans
iTengen [3k\]: h5 not work for b
SColbert [3d\]: so w go g12 probably
xcut [1d\]: h5 does n ot work
eextreme [3k\]: g10 for white?
pendulum [3k\]: has takemiya stopped commenting?
xcut [1d\]: takemiya said white answers h5 with l5 :)
]
;W[ko]C[lonsan [1k\]: oh sorry misunderstood what you were saying
Yoseki [2k\]: wow
]
;B[kn]
;W[jn]C[Yazu [4d\]: ANDY IS A BEAST
Yoseki [2k\]: W libs also short?
]
;B[mo]C[Bruno [1d\]: there you have your h5
Ukasuhs [1k\]: h9?
iTengen [3k\]: ooh h9 seems good
johnny [7k\]: W f14 now?
ukeewu [2d?\]: i like h10
Ukasuhs [1k\]: f14 k17 would b good for b
Bruno [1d\]: k 8
KaZan: cloner la partie doesn t work 
Yoseki [2k\]: it should
Bruno [1d\]: where is william shubert?
xcut [1d\]: somebody post the URL where we can see results please
xcut [1d\]: i won't be able to stay for the rest :)
Luminaire [3k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
ketchup [2k\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
xcut [1d\]: thx
Yoseki [2k\]: you can look at the USGO1 game record
icecream [?\]: How did B get so strong? Has he had any training?
chiron [5k\]: yes, at kgs
ketchup [2k\]: my link is actually relevant xcut
Yoseki [2k\]: he played lots of WoW
calvinlee [-\]: he trained in china
mcw85 [7k\]: He trained in the russian wilderness by running up mountains and jumping over logs.
oren [2k?\]: lots on Tygem
xcut [1d\]: got it, ketchup thx
freddygo [5k\]: bbw doesnt play on kgs that much
ketchup [2k\]: enjoy!
Kuros [8k\]: and climbing up mountains to shout DRAGOOOOOOOOOooo
Uberdude [5d?\]: wolf got strong by slaughtering boars
]
;W[kp]C[icecream [?\]: Who did he train with in China?
Oogway [2k\]: andy liu = bbw?
]
;B[jd]
;W[jc]
;B[kb]C[rikiyu [1k\]: Shaolin monks
chiron [5k\]: the drunken master
Uberdude [5d?\]: hmm no b f13?
]
;W[qe]C[Someone456 [5k?\]: he balanced a go set on his head while in the horse stance
]
;B[rc]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: sewna big gonte
MssrBlanc [3k\]: It also helps that he was playing when he was 9
Yoseki [2k\]: look kghin is 7d now
Bruno [1d\]: pain
xiexieni [4d\]: he intentionally jumped off a cliff to obtain the intensity which comes from knowing u are about to die, and now he can bring it forth at will
Bruno [1d\]: pain-ko
SColbert [3d\]: feels like b's behind
ketchup [2k\]: xiexieni, is that some grappler baki?
MoussDiouf [11k\]: he is not
chiron [5k\]: xiexeni, I suspected something like that
icecream [?\]: F12 stones not important
insect000 [4k\]: he can also die at will
]
;W[ke]C[mcw85 [7k\]: kghin has been 7d, get with the program!
]
;B[ic]C[chiron [5k\]: kghin needs to be struck by lightning
Uberdude [5d?\]: did  andy grow up in usa or china?
mcw85 [7k\]: Umm...
Aberrance [9k\]: yes, he is bbw
kingsplace [2k\]: China
calvinlee [-\]: he was born in china
starstruck [6k\]: w playing yose carefully
calvinlee [-\]: and moved to the us when he was 3
SColbert [3d\]: i think w has the yose advantage
chiron [5k\]: calvin, who was his teacher?
Bruno [1d\]: so it goes with the blood
Yoseki [2k\]: kghin;s graph looks almost linear
Bruno [1d\]: o.0
]
;W[er]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: went to go school before 3 ? ;-)
calvinlee [-\]: no lol
kahin [6k\]: q15
calvinlee [-\]: i dont know who taught him
donGoku [5k\]: E2???
golgo13 [12k\]: moi
Oleg2711 [1k\]: big move for 3 years old, ;-))
lonsan [1k\]: huge
tonynogo [6k?\]: J7 is it a good move?
chiron [5k\]: prob his parents moved, and he tagged along
mcw85 [7k\]: Taglog? 
donGoku [5k\]: h10 wasnt better?
]
;B[dr]C[tonynogo [6k?\]: For black J7
erkkierkki [7k\]: going to school at age 3 is most likely sente
HikaShin [-\]: j7 is a bad move tonynogo
mcw85 [7k\]: J7 is resign.
SColbert [3d\]: b left side about 20 points
chiron [5k\]: is getting taught go in the US miai with getting taught in China?
]
;W[ff]C[ukeewu [2d?\]: ouch
SColbert [3d\]: top 25 points
amego [3k\]: g17
rikiyu [1k\]: No, US does not have Shaolin monks
SColbert [3d\]: 5 at bottom right
insect000 [4k\]: who wants to learn go in the US
grossomodo [1k\]: pai mei was in china right?
SColbert [3d\]: including dead stones
chiron [5k\]: US needsd more shaolin monks
ketchup [2k\]: g18?
tonynogo [6k?\]: Excuse me i said J7 but is J8 for black
timetodie [1d\]: no they dont
SColbert [3d\]: that's 60 total
Bruno [1d\]: US have G.I Joes
donGoku [5k\]: b cant lose this i think
timetodie [1d\]: chuck norris is much better
Long88 [2d\]: what is US
mcw85 [7k\]: Pai Mei was a master of nuclear tesuji.
chiron [5k\]: we should trade GI JOues for shaolin monks
SColbert [3d\]: w 7 points top right
lonsan [1k\]: j8 good for b dying
Aberrance [9k\]: how much time on clocks?
ikea [2d\]: h10?
lonsan [1k\]: because g10 cut
SColbert [3d\]: w about 35 points bottom
chiron [5k\]: we'll trade you one Chuck Norris fopr ten Shaolin Monks
amego [3k\]: e13 first
kayzac [1d\]: jiang plays with his stones while andyy thinks. ha
SColbert [3d\]: top left 10 points strong
xedover [5k?\]: 40 mins for black, sounds like white is in byo-yomi now
Uberdude [5d?\]: b f18 ?
Mihan [3k\]: omg I have to be somewhere 10 minutes ago finish this game already :(
]
;B[fb]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: too much prehaps
mcw85 [7k\]: J8 not good for black, Ion.
starstruck [6k\]: b thinking for a change
lonsan [1k\]: yep :)
rikiyu [1k\]: BIG
]
;W[fc]C[ikea [2d\]: g10 going to be painful for b
Uberdude [5d?\]: yes that why i wanted f13
Uberdude [5d?\]: nice honte
Karcusrd [7k\]: wow had my mouse sitting on j 18 for 10 min
eextreme [3k\]: h9 solves everything
eextreme [3k\]: for white
amego [3k\]: g17?
]
;B[gc]C[Tetriste [17k\]: I just realised that there wasn't a i letter...
Kuros [8k\]: hax
Uberdude [5d?\]: i was wondering if w could h18 or so
Long88 [2d\]: SE sahy 40+ b
]
;W[gd]
;B[hb]C[mcw85 [7k\]: To avoid confused with l, Tetris. I l, see?
SColbert [3d\]: seems that w can play h9
ponticello [2k\]: yes no i.... I assume it's because  lower/upper case L=i  l=I  
SunnyD [2d\]: The is no free "eye" in go
evave [4k\]: q15 ?
kayzac [1d\]: w want to protect f14 stones before playing s16
trebleclef [2k\]: uj11
mcw85 [7k\]: H9 doesn't kill, right?
Silnairer [8k\]: lol
trebleclef [2k\]: j11
ikea [2d\]: bbw doesn't see h9? i'm surprised
]
;W[je]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: of course he does
ikea [2d\]: h9 does kill or at least kills f6
Mihan [3k\]: no move to spare
icecream [?\]: H9 no big deal
donGoku [5k\]: bbw can make yey
donGoku [5k\]: eye
Bruno [1d\]: bets?
USGO1 [-\]: w in byoyomi, b has 38 minutes
SColbert [3d\]: h9 h10 j11 
evave [4k\]: q15 
mcw85 [7k\]: Fix now?
Bruno [1d\]: j 8
Bruno [1d\]: is good
mcw85 [7k\]: J8 is not good.
SColbert [3d\]: b better defend
Bruno [1d\]: oh, sorry
iTengen [3k\]: h9 then?
rvrey [7k\]: ????  if w G190 b die
rvrey [7k\]: G10
mcw85 [7k\]: G190 is stanard tesuji.
chiron [5k\]: G190 is on Mars
rvrey [7k\]: ^ol
]
;B[jl]C[SColbert [3d\]: b's going to defend
Bruno [1d\]: somewere around the area 
]
;W[jm]C[evave [4k\]: m13 
Thanshin [4k?\]: g190 is on board 5 and it's quite a good move.
SColbert [3d\]: k8
starstruck [6k\]: w h9
iTengen [3k\]: r8 big for b eller hur
SColbert [3d\]: nah
mcw85 [7k\]: g190 would have to be on board 10...
SColbert [3d\]: k8 bad aji
Bruno [1d\]: j 8?
amego [3k\]: h10
patrickn [5k\]: j8 h8 
SColbert [3d\]: h10 best shape here
Bruno [1d\]: true
evave [4k\]: g13 ?
mcw85 [7k\]: J8 is still problematic.
Bruno [1d\]: j 9 is like a stone in the shoe
patrickn [5k\]: j9 is connected
patrickn [5k\]: if it wants to be
amego [3k\]: bet a dollar h10
gorlum [6k\]: Now B will spend 35 minutes thinking...
mcw85 [7k\]: j8 h8 h9 g10 
]
;B[hj]C[Bruno [1d\]: uh
Shunko [14k?\]: wofl.
SColbert [3d\]: so b defends
]
;W[id]
;B[jb]C[rvrey [7k\]: yep^^^
ikea [2d\]: w could have won
SColbert [3d\]: w get a few points
Bruno [1d\]: q 15 is big
]
;W[ds]
;B[cs]
;W[es]
;B[cr]C[SColbert [3d\]: b15 huge
Mihan [3k\]: s15 maybe?
donGoku [5k\]: s15
lonsan [1k\]: there was so much noise on the mic i was worried someone resigned and i missed it
Bruno [1d\]: yose is for white
SColbert [3d\]: e18 is big
mcw85 [7k\]: Colbert, did you arrive at a final count?
erkkierkki [7k\]: s15, q15?
mcw85 [7k\]: I have B+10.
Karcusrd [7k\]: wow that wack sounded like a KGS wack
jSd [8k\]: r8
jSd [8k\]: not huge?
chiron [5k\]: I tihnk the mike is attached to Andy's chair
Long88 [2d\]: Se say B wins 
gojustingo [8k\]: when is the finaly/championship match pls?
mcw85 [7k\]: This is it.
Uberdude [5d?\]: now
ketchup [2k\]: this is the naim finals
Rookwood [1k\]: so did Andy win his last game?
mcw85 [7k\]: For the NAIM.
SColbert [3d\]: b top 30 points
Bruno [1d\]: r 8 huge you are right
]
;W[rd]C[ketchup [2k\]: us open still hast one last round tomorrow?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
Bruno [1d\]: damn
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
patrickn [5k\]: he lost against tartrate or whatever
Bruno [1d\]: pain-ko
iTengen [3k\]: oh LAWD ko
timetodie [1d\]: Andys afk
lonsan [1k\]: connect?
SColbert [3d\]: connect
mcw85 [7k\]: He lost against Myung-wan Kim in the US open.
lonely [1d\]: no ko ;)
raifu [3k\]: andy afb
patrickn [5k\]: b has many local threats
Long88 [2d\]: s1
SColbert [3d\]: no
lonsan [1k\]: no ko
Bruno [1d\]: he simply connect
masterubik [1k\]: malade
Long88 [2d\]: s15 and T16
timetodie [1d\]: in bathroom or something
masterubik [1k\]: il y a du monde pour la finale
goman361 [3d\]: andy liu study from c d lin from the beginning to 1dan
Bruno [1d\]: is easy connecting
chiron [5k\]: bien sur mastr
Yoseki [2k\]: too risky for B to ko
mcw85 [7k\]: Minjiu not happy.
Bruno [1d\]: r 16 and ok 
Bruno [1d\]: no need to fight
masterubik [1k\]: that theire time left?
lonsan [1k\]: oui, rubik, parceque cette jeux est incroyable :)
SColbert [3d\]: no need to ko
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: black has enough time to play near-perfect endgame
Tetriste [17k\]: Minjiu doesn't have time to be unhappy
Luminaire [3k\]: takemiya moved marker to M
goman361 [3d\]: from 1dan  to high dan study from mr tao
]
;B[qc]C[Bruno [1d\]: ah
weirdchess [5k\]: j8 sente for white?
raifu [3k\]: wow fast
Long88 [2d\]: who is Mr tao
weirdchess [5k\]: i cant tell
SColbert [3d\]: it's just that w wants to get q14 and q13 later
bighead [1d\]: fsdafjds
]
;W[pf]
;B[re]C[goman361 [3d\]:  later study from 3 pro from china
Emiel [10k\]: s8  isnt this the last huge area
]
;W[hk]C[lonsan [1k\]: hm
]
;B[gh]C[SColbert [3d\]: j10
lonsan [1k\]: the beginning of the end?
Long88 [2d\]: i studied from nobody
raifu [3k\]: same
Long88 [2d\]: superior man seeks in himself
]
;W[fg]C[SColbert [3d\]: b focing before defending
Long88 [2d\]: from Go seigen movie
golgo13 [12k\]: i didnt study period
ketchup [2k\]: soon s8
evave [4k\]: r8 
]
;B[ig]C[Bruno [1d\]: b is doing good la la la
NattyIce [1k\]: i taught myself the overplay technique
patrickn [5k\]: he is doing well, not good :P
HenryGo [4k\]: why not the monkey jump in the upper left?
Long88 [2d\]: I taught myself engineering
]
;W[ql]
;B[pe]C[chiron [5k\]: r8 was so big
]
;W[oe]C[HenryGo [4k\]: not big enough right now?
SColbert [3d\]: c18 big
gojustingo [8k\]: these guys were fighting like crazy the first 50 moves,no?
]
;B[og]
;W[of]
;B[pg]
;W[ng]
;B[mr]C[amego [3k\]: s9
Bruno [1d\]: ?
SColbert [3d\]: p2
SColbert [3d\]: but b gets m4 
Long88 [2d\]: out of this world, no comprehension
rvrey [7k\]: missclick ?
Long88 [2d\]: b want want?
]
;W[or]C[SColbert [3d\]: but p2 better
TheMagic [3k\]: lol, missclick
tianyake [3d\]: seems a close game
SColbert [3d\]: just m4
Shunko [14k?\]: misclick wth
amego [3k\]: s6
evave [4k\]: s6 
SColbert [3d\]: m4 1 point for later
ketchup [2k\]: d15
rikiyu [1k\]: b is way ahead?
ketchup [2k\]: e15*
ketchup [2k\]: or is it e18?
ripero [-\]: isn't this an online copy of a live physical game? (how can they missclick a stone?)
Kounkychan [3k\]: about 10p
Cool007 [2k\]: 30 blocks ahead
Moop [21k\]: this is insane
Shunko [14k?\]: yep
patrickn [5k\]: there was no misclick
k23 [3k\]: lol
LionelLee [7k\]: lol
lonsan [1k\]: pros say b is ahead about 10-15 minus komi
golgo13 [12k\]: kgs habit
LionelLee [7k\]: i would surely love to see some1 use that excuse for a life game
LionelLee [7k\]: "misplace"
SColbert [3d\]: the thing is
lonsan [1k\]: i have done it, lionel, but i didn't ask for the move back
LionelLee [7k\]: live game*
SColbert [3d\]: the pros get weaker as time passes
Iplay4u [9k?\]: komi = 8?
SColbert [3d\]: andy gets stronger
lonsan [1k\]: scolbert, yes, certainly
Ukasuhs [1k\]: lol pros get stringer
lonsan [1k\]: yes iplay
patrickn [5k\]: is w in byo-yomi?
xedover [5k?\]: yes
lonsan [1k\]: yes patrcik
Long88 [2d\]: I thought Andy is amateur, but he got lesson from several Pros, i'[m so disappointed
patrickn [5k\]: yeah andy has been good at managing time
xedover [5k?\]: still 5 periods left
goman361 [3d\]: pro means pro,1 or 2 game means nothing
mcw85 [7k\]: Once they stop playing other pros, I think it is inevitable their game suffers and their rank never changes.
kayzac [1d\]: andy needs to play more slowly and seriously
SColbert [3d\]: andy still a teenager...
kahin [6k\]: s7 ?
amego [3k\]: one dollar for h6?
xedover [5k?\]: andy should have at least 30+ mins still
Long88 [2d\]: Lee Sedol was top at the world when he was andy age
Emiel [10k\]: when g12 was played b ahead with 10-15 points
SColbert [3d\]: right
SunnyD [2d\]: teenager, but going downhill from here on
]
;B[ol]C[patrickn [5k\]: hes good at starting a huge ko right when they go into byo-yomi :P
freddygo [5k\]: whats b thinking about?
SColbert [3d\]: andy's on the launch pad
]
;W[ro]
;B[rn]
;W[sp]
;B[be]C[MoussDiouf [11k\]: is c19 a big move for black ?
mcw85 [7k\]: Too late for lunch.
erkkierkki [7k\]: no
erkkierkki [7k\]: d19 better
]
;W[de]C[MssrBlanc [3k\]: that's silly! Lee Sedol didn't win a single international tournament till he was 19
mcw85 [7k\]: d19 gote.
MssrBlanc [3k\]: He was totally old by then
rvrey [7k\]: M13^^^
goman361 [3d\]: andy's teacher are c d lin.mr tao.plus 3 pro later
SColbert [3d\]: b about 68
Long88 [2d\]: Lee Sedol is always number 1
]
;B[df]
;W[ee]
;B[lg]C[Bruno [1d\]: black is slightly ahead i guess
golgo13 [12k\]: LSD is doing bobby fisher
iTengen [3k\]: he's a legend
LionelLee [7k\]: the korean ki-in is unhappy with him isnt it
sweetr: how much time
iTengen [3k\]: yeah
]
;W[lf]C[Long88 [2d\]: what is bobby fisher do
patrickn [5k\]: hes dead
iTengen [3k\]: he is dead. he played chess
Bruno [1d\]: p 9
SColbert [3d\]: so about 1o oints
SColbert [3d\]: 10 points
Long88 [2d\]: did he pull what lsd did?
iTengen [3k\]: he was possibly the best player eva
erkkierkki [7k\]: e3
dooku [10k\]: the michael jackson of chess
mcw85 [7k\]: Great chess player then he became a weird recluse.
iTengen [3k\]: and certainly the most controversial
]
;B[eb]C[eq [1d\]: wasn't he mean
Long88 [2d\]: i better look him up
freddygo [5k\]: why is he the best?
iTengen [3k\]: yes, he was basically mental
sweetr: USGO what is time for players?
eq [1d\]: had shirts with cats on them when his oppnents were cat phobic, and such
eextreme [3k\]: wht not c19?
iTengen [3k\]: he is the best because his chess looked like Go Seigen's go
]
;W[hd]C[eextreme [3k\]: *why
]
;B[hc]C[ikea [2d\]: why 18 as opposed to monkey jump?
]
;W[dg]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Cat phobic?
Long88 [2d\]: LSD just sick organization, S.Korea is known for these difficult structural
patrickn [5k\]: he was an anti-semite, even though he was half jewish
LionelLee [7k\]: i tot the best in chess is some russians.... most of the time
donGoku [5k\]: proos resign often against amas?
eq [1d\]: jag kan inte tala engelskaaaa :(((
xedover [5k?\]: white has 5 periods of byo-yomi; black has lots of time left
Kuros [8k\]: ägd
iTengen [3k\]: skärp dig, kära
mcw85 [7k\]: Though it would be sente?
raifu [3k\]: no, best in chess is computer
oogogogg: how about Capablanca or Pillsbury for the best chess player
ychen666 [?\]: 12 poin ts on the board.
Uberdude [5d?\]: e18 makes points
ketchup [2k\]: d12 ok?
Uberdude [5d?\]: the monkeys don;t
iTengen [3k\]: raifu - bridle yourself
evave [4k\]: s9 
iTengen [3k\]: get off the i hate chess bandwagon and we can all be friends
amego [3k\]: close game
]
;B[eg]
;W[eh]
;B[dh]
;W[ef]C[Bruno [1d\]: is good that sacrifice?
kayzac [1d\]: a17 hurts w
patrickn [5k\]: sure why not :)
Bruno [1d\]: i don't think so
Bruno [1d\]: b lose one
dantheman [2d\]: to get sente
mcw85 [7k\]: But gained sente.
eextreme [3k\]: e3?
Bruno [1d\]: oh
]
;B[db]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: sacrifice looks like b just makes a ko for one point instead of just not giving up the point
Pathetic [4d\]: black isn't going to capture the stone
ychen666 [?\]: s9 is big too.
]
;W[rm]C[Pathetic [4d\]: now if white connects, it's gote
chiron [5k\]: andy seems way ahead
Pathetic [4d\]: if he had d12, white e13; after when white connects, its sente
SColbert [3d\]: b has to be careful
MChow [6k\]: p9 
SColbert [3d\]: r6 safe
Bruno [1d\]: becouse a ko is knocking the door right?
Zanpaktou [3d\]: p9 loses a liberty
mcw85 [7k\]: Of what Colbert?
amego [3k\]: i think w is ahead now
coolbabe [5d\]: s9
Silnairer [8k\]: w only chances is in yose right?
SColbert [3d\]: maybe s9
mcw85 [7k\]: This group looks fine.
Uberdude [5d?\]: of ko t6 q7 p7 r6 
Bruno [1d\]: q 7 danger for b
SColbert [3d\]: t6 q7
SColbert [3d\]: so s9 gives connect under
Long88 [2d\]: r6
GeorgeW [-\]: S9 is bigger point-wise anyways
Pathetic [4d\]: personally, I think d18 should have been at t6
Long88 [2d\]: only 1 point
]
;B[qn]C[Kounkychan [3k\]: ko
Kounkychan [3k\]: not
SColbert [3d\]: b chose safe move
coolbabe [5d\]: or r6
]
;W[rk]C[coolbabe [5d\]: just dont t6
SColbert [3d\]: right
]
;B[sn]C[patrickn [5k\]: lol
evave [4k\]: close
Uberdude [5d?\]: tbh i was surprised by p8 
Uberdude [5d?\]: expected s5
SColbert [3d\]: b's very close to the finishing line
cloud [2d\]: w seems ahead
]
;W[nl]C[oogogogg: B has been playing scared
GeorgeW [-\]: Black was worried about O7 forcing him to live with only 2 points I think
]
;B[nm]C[cloud [2d\]: unless i counted wrong
]
;W[om]C[SColbert [3d\]: i think b wins
Leibnix [8k\]: marker at s :)
]
;B[pm]C[grossomodo [1k\]: how is the se doing?
]
;W[pl]C[chiron [5k\]: SE has B +5
grossomodo [1k\]: i see b ahead
mcw85 [7k\]: B hasn't lost anything from when I counted him at +10
cloud [2d\]: what is komi in ing rules
lonsan [1k\]: 8
Sethra [2d?\]: b looks ahead to me
]
;B[on]
;W[cb]C[coolbabe [5d\]: w missed k13
coolbabe [5d\]: why p7?
evave [4k\]: e3 
TenDrink [2d\]: it's pretty close
ychen666 [?\]: c13 and win.
coolbabe [5d\]: why p6?
kuwabarak [5k\]: whats this marker?
Emiel [10k\]: in usgo10 there are 3 markers O N S what do they men?
trebleclef [2k\]: b+
Emiel [10k\]: mean
]
;B[cg]C[SColbert [3d\]: b just wants to end the game
coolbabe [5d\]: w k13
chiron [5k\]: ychen, ur a beast
GOlooser [9k\]: b is ahead at least 10p
Zanpaktou [3d\]: if the marker is at T the game is over
calvinlee [-\]: b is leading slightly
Kuros [8k\]: there aren't 3 markers, it's a scale from left to right, right being black wins and a being white wins
grossomodo [1k\]: b won said takemiya
Luminaire [3k\]: takemiya moved the marker to S
lonsan [1k\]: and the marker is at s
]
;W[jg]C[Kuros [8k\]: and now it's at S meaning black is almost certain to win
cloud [2d\]: oh lol
Luminaire [3k\]: yes
]
;B[jh]C[cloud [2d\]: i counted the prisoners for the wrong color
]
;W[if]C[cloud [2d\]: b is winning
coolbabe [5d\]: there u go
]
;B[eq]C[quasimoyo [1d\]: how much komi?
lemming [-\]: how can I follow the commentary?
timetodie [1d\]: where do i go to check rankings and standings of players at congress?
]
;W[fr]C[Leibnix [8k\]: 8
TheMagic [3k\]: komi is 7.5
Bruno [1d\]: Andy Liu is a pro
cloud [2d\]: b+7 or so
Zanpaktou [3d\]: oh ... prisoners ... and i thought i can´t count anymore .. i counted w ahead -.-
MssrBlanc [3k\]: usgo.org, look for ratings
mcw85 [7k\]: Komi is 8.
mcw85 [7k\]: ING rules have integer komi.
TenDrink [2d\]: i have w up too
SColbert [3d\]: b has sente at m4
timetodie [1d\]: thanks
lemming [-\]: wheeeere can I follow commentary pls? :)
nemoneko [5k\]: timetodie - go to usgo.org, click on "US Go Congress" 
sinprejic [3k\]: komi is not 7.5 this is ing... 8 point komi
Aberrance [9k\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
icecream [?\]: Last I counted, B ahead a little bit
TenDrink [2d\]: oh forgot prisoners
mcw85 [7k\]: With black winning if tie, so effectively it is 7.5 komi, but it acoids nasty fractions, I guess.
Karcusrd [7k\]: stupid komi 
]
;B[hg]C[starstruck [6k\]: se very good from here on
Jupeli [9k\]: lemming, at active games, USGO10
lemming [-\]: thx
calvinlee [-\]: andy liu
calvinlee [-\]: 3 pros in a row
gorilla04 [2k\]: j10
gorlum [6k\]: that's it
SColbert [3d\]: b about 78 points
coolbabe [5d\]: w could h13 first
]
;W[ck]
;B[bk]C[lonsan [1k\]: three in a row calvin?
golgo13 [12k\]: N15!!!
Long88 [2d\]: hmmm white is ahead
patrickn [5k\]: i was so blown away that andy beat feng... i only caught the first half of that and he looked like he was going to lose for sure
IHateKGS [1k\]: what's the eurogptv url?
Kounkychan [3k\]: d9
kasi [6d\]: don't forget b's prisoners
ychen666 [?\]: and they r high dan pros not 1p or 2p's.
Hometet [9k\]: c7..
chiron [5k\]: is this a 10,00 year double ko?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: am I brain dead or is j11 a big problem?
]
;W[sk]C[kayzac [1d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Long88 [2d\]: o wait andy got prisoners so b won
evanj [2d\]: could be both
SColbert [3d\]: w at most 65
]
;B[so]C[evave [4k\]: t10 
Uberdude [5d?\]: you are braindead
chiron [5k\]: brain dead
]
;W[sj]
;B[ri]C[Someone456 [5k?\]: j 11 is not a problem because L10 is a real eye
Bruno [1d\]: someone should make a dope test like in the France tour
]
;W[qe]C[evave [4k\]: sad
amego [3k\]: j11 nothing
MssrBlanc [3k\]: wow, I am brain dead
coolbabe [5d\]: hehe
]
;B[rf]C[ychen666 [?\]: T5 should go T10.
coolbabe [5d\]: t7
Neospring [3k\]: are players drug tested
Neospring [3k\]: ?
Pathetic [4d\]: another point.., but I guess he's leading
icecream [?\]: Yeah, T10 > T5
nemoneko [5k\]: neo - no, only chess is doing that at the moment
Bruno [1d\]: drug dont help to think boy
coolbabe [5d\]: leave j10 for ko threat
manyEyes [?\]: b must be winning, these few moves are not goo
rvrey [7k\]: new zyland rules ??
ww [?\]: b is like, dude ?
mcw85 [7k\]: W looks like he is going to resign.
SColbert [3d\]: i think b wins for sure
chiron [5k\]: ychen, they're not the same?
xedover [5k?\]: closest to Ing rules on this server
evave [4k\]: t7 
Neospring [3k\]: and yes drugs to increase your thought process bruno
golgo13 [12k\]: which drug do they test for?
mcw85 [7k\]: HAIR MOVE
Long88 [2d\]: aspirin
erkkierkki [7k\]: now that was hairy hair
evanj [2d\]: no, the players are not tested for drugs.
timloupuce [5k\]: w can res b +10 no?
mcw85 [7k\]: Ton of split ends...
xedover [5k?\]: I don't hear the clock, did Andy forget to press it?
kasi [6d\]: no
kayzac [1d\]: game is close
Bruno [1d\]: nah...only for paranormal events
evave [4k\]: tel me b eins
mcw85 [7k\]: USGO, tell that guy to use conditioner.
PowerTower [1d\]: how about antidepressiva ?
SColbert [3d\]: i think w resigned..
Uberdude [5d?\]: andy wants the half pointer
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;W[rp]C[Hometet [9k\]: takmeya is not bad =)
Yazu [4d\]: GO ANDY GO! GO ANDY GO! GO ANDY GO! GO ANDY GO! GO ANDY GO! GO ANDY GO! 
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;B[kg]C[lolmanever [2k\]: i';m voting for my teacher ming jiu
MChow [6k\]: d9 good
wefasdvasd: white wins
marwan [-\]: B+6
oogogogg: does anyone have a link to the tournament standings?
Neospring [3k\]: even simple drugs like 80hd stuff can help
gorilla04 [2k\]: I hope white wins
gtgrouch [7k\]: why not J10 now?
coolbabe [5d\]: g13?
Luminaire [3k\]: what is the time? please?
]
;W[ij]C[manyEyes [?\]: who is andy teacher?
iTengen [3k\]: b18 shape is just so cute
]
;B[ii]C[stuckto1d [2d?\]: it should be B+6 +/- the open kos
GOlooser [9k\]: how many are in this roon?
GOlooser [9k\]: room
mcw85 [7k\]: I taught Andy everything he doesn't know.
Chachi [2k\]: 450
saken5 [2k\]: 456
SColbert [3d\]: like what
SColbert [3d\]: how to chase girls?
blindman [-\]: what's the komi?
wefasdvasd: 7.5
coolbabe [5d\]: t7
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes...
cloud [2d\]: andy 3-1 vs pros
ychen666 [?\]: b 10 points ahead on board. if T5 had been T10, should be 12 points ahead.
mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
Bruno [1d\]: it must be an intense moment for Andy
h7N1 [4d\]: b wins
saken5 [2k\]: komin 7
xedover [5k?\]: 8
wefasdvasd: white wins
h7N1 [4d\]: 3 point gap is like grnad canyon at this phase
mcw85 [7k\]: Resign coming...
]
;W[sm]
;B[jo]
;W[ho]
;B[lp]
;W[kq]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: b + 4
saken5 [2k\]: nice yose
]
;B[gg]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Mister split ends agan...
fwiffo [5k\]: B2 bomber; it's so over.
]
;W[ok]
;B[gf]
;W[ge]
;B[ca]
;W[ba]
;B[da]
;W[ad]
;B[ae]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: b + 6 maybe
]
;W[ac]C[ikea [2d\]: b2+1=?
garrass [?\]: b +2
MChow [6k\]: d9 
SColbert [3d\]: just fill kos
wefasdvasd: oh i didnt see captures
Neospring [3k\]: recorder lost track
evave [4k\]: c7 
Succesful [1d?\]: did andy
mint [4d\]: yeah, w should fill the d9 ko
Phear [4d\]: b+++?
Kumoriha [-\]: G9
Succesful [1d?\]: beat the other pro
ychen666 [?\]: c7
k23 [3k\]: g9
MChow [6k\]: d9 
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;B[om]C[Succesful [1d?\]: this afternoon
Kumoriha [-\]: G9 =/
sc1003bro [3k\]: lolz
Beeko31k [2k\]: frbsfbsfsfc
Beeko31k [2k\]: fdfs
MChow [6k\]: ................
IamLucifer [1d\]: LOL
timetodie [1d\]: yeah its a slip
gtgrouch [7k\]: WHAT!?!?
Hometet [9k\]: hahaha
Bruno [1d\]: what the ...........
Long88 [2d\]: undo
]
;W[eo]C[iTengen [3k\]: hehe
IHateKGS [1k\]: recorder error
Succesful [1d?\]: he beat another pro
iTengen [3k\]: :)
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: what tha
Kumoriha [-\]: What? XP
Beeko31k [2k\]: Why
xedover [5k?\]: calm down !
zodte [8k?\]: ?
mcw85 [7k\]: He beat  pros.
wefasdvasd: the recorders an idiot
marwan [-\]: B+6
Someone456 [5k?\]: ROFL damn
mcw85 [7k\]: 2*
Cafecho [2k?\]: lol
OhmyGod [-\]: looool
Bruno [1d\]: shut up 
Oogway [2k\]: boring :(
Ukasuhs [1k\]: yes b + 6
saken5 [2k\]: b+4
chiron [5k\]: it was a warp in the space-time continuum
Bruno [1d\]: steady !
h7N1 [4d\]: watch your language
amego [3k\]: c7
zerg [4d\]: so is Andy Liu an amateur?
golgo13 [12k\]: the scribe was testing us
peteg [5k?\]: The recorder is a helpful volunteer.
AroundOneD [2d\]: c7
rvrey [7k\]: lol
SunnyD [2d\]: why need two transcribers?
USGO1 [-\]: finishing endgame ---stand by for score
Beeko31k [2k\]: What are we paying you for!
Succesful [1d?\]: andy beat another pro
Ukasuhs [1k\]: hes a volunteer...
IHateKGS [1k\]: out of the way Jon!
Neospring [3k\]: get that big head out of the way
SunnyD [2d\]: good job!
fwiffo [5k\]: Hey, I am paying. I'm watching from the plane.
ripero [-\]: we should all thank the recorder for his job :-)
evave [4k\]: some1 from kgs should no ing rules
mint [4d\]: Ed Bighead.
evave [4k\]: so COUNT
Phear [4d\]: Yes, Andy beats pros when he feels like it, he must've just been unwilling earlier today ;P
ychen666 [?\]: it could be a blunder.
ukeewu [2d?\]: so who gets the prize money for first?
GeorgeW [-\]: Can you ask the guy to move his head
Timshel [1d\]: tell that guy to move his head please
Artista [13k?\]: hi
Chachi [2k\]: he let sai play
Bruno [1d\]: move the head
srpp: why thinking?
nemoneko [5k\]: USGO - thanks for transcribing the game.
mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks, USGO1.
jersta [15k\]: thx usgo :))
Haukelid [9k?\]: Thanks
Beeko31k [2k\]: Did they fill the 4 kos?
Artista [13k?\]: MOVE
MChow [6k\]: did w actually play there?
garrass [?\]: e13, d9, c7, q15, k16, k14 = Ko
Artista [13k?\]: hi
Long88 [2d\]: what laptop is that
Neospring [3k\]: what counting is this
marwan [-\]: B+4
iTengen [3k\]: remember w has 8 komis
evanj [2d\]: b won
saken5 [2k\]: still b win
ketchup [2k\]: B+5?
weirdchess [5k\]: SE is right
ketchup [2k\]: did he say?
evave [4k\]: What abt kos?
ikea [2d\]: how can se not correcly score this?
Luminaire [3k\]: they are counting
chiron [5k\]: omg, someone dropped a stone
Ukasuhs [1k\]: SE is not right
Luminaire [3k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
saken5 [2k\]: lol se not couting komi
gtgrouch [7k\]: even number of kos, no?
evanj [2d\]: b+5
mcw85 [7k\]: B+5
Ukasuhs [1k\]: SE is wrong scoring system
USGO1 [-\]: black wins by 5 points
evanj [2d\]: over
grossomodo [1k\]: thx
iTengen [3k\]: EPIIIIIIC
mcw85 [7k\]: Congrats, Andy.
evave [4k\]: WOW
xedover [5k?\]: thanks usgo1 !!!
iTengen [3k\]: bbw awesome
Cafecho [2k?\]: great
Emiel [10k\]: woaw
starstruck [6k\]: they pick up the stones
Alife361 [6k\]: thanks
Mihan [3k\]: Was that the final?
USGO1 [-\]: thanks all, bye
manyEyes [?\]: did Andy win?
mcw85 [7k\]: USGO, give Andy a hug from everyone at KGS?
golgo13 [12k\]: thank you, USGO1
grossomodo [1k\]: ty good job
evave [4k\]: sometimes bbw surprises himself :P
xedover [5k?\]: B+5
icecream [?\]: Thanks to both players
Uberdude [5d?\]: thanks for broadcast
jersta [15k\]: thx usgo1
weirdchess [5k\]: Go Andy!!!!!!
Alife361 [6k\]: pls, say thanks to USGO10! 
Uberdude [5d?\]: congrats to andy
amego [3k\]: w won
zerg [4d\]: so is Andy Liu then like 9p strength?
IamLucifer [1d\]: congrats andy
Tetriste [17k\]: 5 points? I thought it was more XD still, that was interesting like game, a whole lot
dooku [10k\]: thanks usgo
Mihan [3k\]: Was this the final game?
starstruck [6k\]: so Andy won?
dooku [10k\]: good stuff
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
Tetriste [17k\]: thanks USGO
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
Rocker [4d\]: i m back
Chachi [2k\]: so he beat 3 pros this week
GoGuru [2k\]: andy is pro level
Rocker [4d\]: hi luci
Topherz [7k\]: who won ?
Rocker [4d\]: who won?
eextreme [3k\]: yeah
YeknomGib [4k\]: Rocker wins
Chachi [2k\]: black
Tetriste [17k\]: Andy
eextreme [3k\]: andy won
Schmidtt [13k\]: b+5
mcw85 [7k\]: Andy will lose his game tomorrow.
Beeko31k [2k\]: jie li beat mingjiu already 
mcw85 [7k\]: He will be too hung over.
zerg [4d\]: with whom?
Timshel [1d\]: isnt tourney over?
chunobi [6k\]: who does he play tomorrow?
Rocker [4d\]: whos andy 
Bruno [1d\]: this was the final or what?
Neospring [3k\]: bbw
mcw85 [7k\]: NAIM is over.
kahin [6k\]: BAW 
mcw85 [7k\]: Last round of US Open tomorrow.
Timshel [1d\]: who in finals
GoGuru [2k\]: too bad he doesnt look like what his picture on kgs makes him look like :(
Tetriste [17k\]: but I thought it was the only game he needed to win?
Chachi [2k\]: this was the final
Timshel [1d\]: then what is the round tomorow for
mint [4d\]: US Open
Bruno [1d\]: third
amego [3k\]: what was the komi?
Beeko31k [2k\]: What does it make him look like?
Chachi [2k\]: they were talking about tennis
Chachi [2k\]: rofl
Tetriste [17k\]: Komi was 8
mcw85 [7k\]: The US Open... people, read.
Rocker [4d\]: how come 7p lose to a ama 7d!! this is embarassing!
Bruno [1d\]: sss
Bruno [1d\]: y
Timshel [1d\]: teaching ppl makes u weaker?
Neospring [3k\]: andy isn't really 7d
GoGuru [2k\]: that 7d is stronger than him?
icecream [?\]: This amateur is not an ordinary 7d
IamLucifer [1d\]: this ama won with two 7 pros and one 9 pro rocky :))
GoGuru [2k\]: andy is 7d.
ychen666 [?\]: 2 7ps and 1 9p!!!
Beeko31k [2k\]: Jie li beat mingiiy in a kgs tournament
GoGuru [2k\]: 7d is the strongest rank
Neospring [3k\]: 7d is max rank he can recive
IamLucifer [1d\]: this is good, cause the fist pro now shoudlnt be ashamed
IamLucifer [1d\]: :))
Timshel [1d\]: lol
Neospring [3k\]: but his much stronger
Timshel [1d\]: tru
Rocker [4d\]: hmm maybe i have a chance against 7p too
Chachi [2k\]: maybe amateurs can get as good as pros but they will always stay 7d
mcw85 [7k\]: His rating is 9.3 something, I think.
Rocker [4d\]: hehehehe
Bruno [1d\]: i am noticing that dan amateur are very similar to pros
Beeko31k [2k\]: 0.34
dark [2d\]: bbw pwns  everyne on kgs too o_o
grossomodo [1k\]: aguilar beated some pros so maybe
Beeko31k [2k\]: 9.34
chunobi [6k\]: he lost on the canada vs america challange
chunobi [6k\]: in the 2nd round
Beeko31k [2k\]: BBW is not unbeatable
mcw85 [7k\]: Everyone has a bad day.
soporific [5k?\]: what is tigergong name?
Rocker [4d\]: which city hes from
Beeko31k [2k\]: But i guess he doesnt play serious on kgs
GoGuru [2k\]: ny
mcw85 [7k\]: tigergong's name is Tiger Gong.
dark [2d\]: yea but bbw is  probably stongest on kgs when it comes to amatuers
zerg [4d\]: so if Andy is 7d amateur and beats 9ps, a 5d amateur should beat 5ps?
KaZan: andy is an exception between amateurs
soporific [5k?\]: not sure about that
mcw85 [7k\]: What kind of logic is that?
Neospring [3k\]: andy cant get a rank above 7d cuz its maxed rank
GoGuru [2k\]: zerg, ru 4d???
zerg [4d\]: not anymore, since I can beat 4ps 
golgo13 [12k\]: there is a new 9d named TB
soporific [5k?\]: lol
Rocker [4d\]: i think i will beat andy whatever!
GoGuru [2k\]: 4d should know more about go, or your just troll ><
soporific [5k?\]: tb=tuberculosis
KaZan: and so i will reach 10 dans 
goplayer0 [8k\]: if AGA ranks dan, who ranks p?
Neospring [3k\]: eastern
zerg [4d\]: PAGA
zerg [4d\]: P from pro
GoGuru [2k\]: professional
GoGuru [2k\]: aga doesnt have pro rating
zerg [4d\]: no, it's PAGA
Rocker [4d\]: any other amateurs playing in the tourney?
GoGuru [2k\]: only korea china and japan :p
IamLucifer [1d\]: rocker maybe in sumo u can beat him haha :)
zerg [4d\]: lol
IamLucifer [1d\]: but  in sumo propably i can beat him too :P
Rocker [4d\]: hmm luci i m too thin for sumo!
Rocker [4d\]: oh u can?
zerg [4d\]: i can beat him in thumb wrestling
IamLucifer [1d\]: but he is more thin than you :P
Rocker [4d\]: it means u r 250 pounds?
IamLucifer [1d\]: small boy :) 
Rocker [4d\]: oh
IamLucifer [1d\]: heh, i have special strategy for  boys to beat him , lie them down :P
IamLucifer [1d\]: them*
Rocker [4d\]: oh hes very small?
IamLucifer [1d\]: lay  my god, my eglish go sleep
goplayer0 [8k\]: amateur 7d usually = what P? thx
ProGoVerb [5k\]: so who is winning?
Rocker [4d\]: whaat u mean u lay them down and beat them?
IamLucifer [1d\]: just have good arguments :P
ProGoVerb [5k\]: b winning?
Neospring [3k\]: b won
Neospring [3k\]: +5
IamLucifer [1d\]: yea, by 5 points
ProGoVerb [5k\]: thnx
ProGoVerb [5k\]: andy is doing awesome at this tournament!
Rocker [4d\]: he lost in the morning , no?
IamLucifer [1d\]: by one mistake, but this was another tournament i think
ProGoVerb [5k\]: he beat 9p yesrterday
IamLucifer [1d\]: he lsot with 8 pro today 
Rocker [4d\]: the girl
goplayer0 [8k\]: hi,  amateur 7d usually = what level of P? thx
IamLucifer [1d\]: of P?
IamLucifer [1d\]: what is P?
goplayer0 [8k\]: professional
goplayer0 [8k\]: 7d=7p?
IamLucifer [1d\]: ussually 7 dan is less strong than pro
goplayer0 [8k\]: roughly, how weaker?
IamLucifer [1d\]: if is stronger, they make him  pro
Rocker [4d\]: as an expert.. to be honest , strong amatuer top rankers are almost same level as pro low dans for sure , and they have chances against not so active and strong high dans too 
IamLucifer [1d\]: 7 dan less than 1 pro 
Narayana [5k\]: what was final?
Ekibyo [10k\]: who has won?
goplayer0 [8k\]: so it's amazing that 7d beats a 7p here
IamLucifer [1d\]: my god... 10 kyu at asking
Emiel [10k\]: andy
IamLucifer [1d\]: go player, no at all,  to become pro  first you must be amateur ; )
Rocker [4d\]: anyway its fun to see pros get embarassed or they think they got embarassed by losing to amas
IamLucifer [1d\]: just a part of way
Rocker [4d\]: luci when u go to bed!?
goplayer0 [8k\]: if 7d=1p, then here, is a big deal
IamLucifer [1d\]: hah
wildebeast [12k\]: tgis was fun to watch
IamLucifer [1d\]: i dont know, night is long
goplayer0 [8k\]: lamLucifer, am I right?
IamLucifer [1d\]: any have aonly rank 7 dan,  like 1 dan can  be stronger or weaker than his rank
IamLucifer [1d\]: but this is very interesting that he  grown in strong so fast
IamLucifer [1d\]: great  player
wildebeast [12k\]: i saw his game yesterday too
Rocker [4d\]: do u know him luci?
goplayer0 [8k\]: but 7d to 7p is a big gap, right?
wildebeast [12k\]: not for this 7d ;-)
goplayer0 [8k\]: why?
IamLucifer [1d\]: no at all,  between pro and  7 pro is about 1 stones?  very little
IamLucifer [1d\]: not like between amateur
goplayer0 [8k\]: you mean between 1p to 7p, only 1 stone diff?
Rocker [4d\]: how u know a us player ! u r in europe!?
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